Vivaldi Desktop Browser Stable Releases

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by anon, Jan 12, 2023.

  1. Rasheed187

    Rasheed187 Registered Member

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    No problem, and to clarify, so when you first install Vivaldi as standalone version, you should configure it to your liking (including bookmarks and extensions), then you should copy Vivaldi's folder (with a new folder name), so one Vivaldi version you should not update, and to other one you can keep updating.

    So in case you encounter some bug in the newest version, you can always use the old Vivaldi version. You can install standalone versions in for example the Documents or Downloads folder. But also in the C:\ folder. Another advantage of this, is that when you need to reset your PC, you won't have to reconfigure it all over again.
     
  2. Stupendous Man

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    Thanks, Rasheed, but for me, Firefox works just fine.
    I don't want a Chromium browser if I don't need it. Chrome is way too big for my liking, Google has too much power over the internet. I don't want another Chromium browser.
    Only if Firefox went down a horrible path, or faded into oblivion, would I want to look at Chromium browsers. In that case, Vivaldi would be my first choice.

    Regarding the tab bar, I like it on top, as at the bottom I have my Kubuntu task bar. I don't want both at the bottom.

    I only really needed one CSS customization in Firefox: to hide the bookmark star button in the Firefox address bar, I don't want that bookmark button. Apart from that, I also used CSS to hide a Private Browsing indicator that I found too bulky for my taste.
     
  3. Trooper

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    Thanks very much I will keep this in consideration.
     
  4. longshots

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    Shame the rss feed shows Tip #114 - September 26, 2022 as the latest tip instead of Tip #432 - February 21, 2024
     
  5. Stupendous Man

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    Vivaldi Tips has no category structure as in Vivaldi Help, but I just noticed Vivaldi Tips offers a selection of 'tags'.
    You can find the tags at the bottom of the Vivaldi Tips page.
    https://tips.vivaldi.net/
     
  6. JaneN

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    Yes, I am active in the Vivaldi Forum.
    Vivaldi 6.6 will be released soon. You can generally expect a new version every 8 weeks or so. Snapshots (our public test versions) being called RCs (release candidates) is also a good indicator of an upcoming release.
    The Address Bar has had over 20 fixes since 6.5. Hopefully the bugs you've encountered are fixed too.
    I wouldn't recommend using older versions of the browser, you're missing out on important security fixes and the like.
     
  7. JaneN

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    Which RSS reader are you using? I just checked in Vivaldi and all recent posts show up as expected.

    If you're active on Mastodon or the larger Fediverse, you can also follow Tips on https://social.vivaldi.net/@tips@tips.vivaldi.net
     
  8. longshots

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    Not sure why this was happening but it has resolved itself this morning with everything as it should be.
    FYI: I have an account at https://www.protopage.com for my rss feeds.
     
  9. Rasheed187

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    OK thanks for the info, the thing is I don't often see you on the forum, or perhaps it's because I only visit certain sections. Yes, Vivaldi 6.5 has serious performance issues and the problem with the bookmark nicknames (related to dropdown priority in the addressbar) is just too annoying. I'm not worried about using older versions of Vivaldi, I use all kinds of security tools that should easily tackle exploit attacks.
     
  10. Rasheed187

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    OK I see, if you really don't want to use Chromium, then you should stick with Firefox. About 8 years ago when they stopped developing Opera 12, the plan was to switch to Firefox, but it just didn't offer the features that I needed. I was very disappointed with Firefox Quantum.

    I think it's riduculous that Firefox doesn't allow you to put tabs on bottom, still hasn't got a tabbased bookmarks manager and keeps annoying you with update alerts. Also, no built-in workspaces and tab stacking feature. And no mouse gestures and ability to double click to close tabs. You probably need extensions for this, what a joke. They also ruined the extensions manager, with silly suggestions. Long story short, Vivaldi is way better and just as fast. But it depends on your needs of course.
     
  11. n8chavez

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    You can. CSS is your friend.

    Code:
    /* Source file https://github.com/MrOtherGuy/firefox-csshacks/tree/master/chrome/tabs_below_content.css made available under Mozilla Public License v. 2.0
    See the above repository for updates as well as full license text. */
    
    /* IMPORTANT */
    /*
    Get window_control_placeholder_support.css
    Window controls will be all wrong without it.
    Additionally on Linux, you may need to get:
    linux_gtk_window_control_patch.css
    */
    /* Note: You must restart Firefox if you change the setting to select if firefox should hide toolbars in fullscreen. */
    
    .titlebar-buttonbox-container{
      position: fixed;
      display: block;
      top:0;
      right:0;
      height: 40px;
      z-index: 3;
      visibility: visible !important;
    }
    
    @media (-moz-gtk-csd-reversed-placement),
           (-moz-platform: macos){
      .titlebar-buttonbox-container{ left:0; right: unset !important; }
    }
    @supports -moz-bool-pref("userchrome.force-window-controls-on-left.enabled"){
      .titlebar-buttonbox-container{ left:0; right: unset !important; }
    }
    
    
    :root[uidensity="compact"] .titlebar-buttonbox-container{ height: 32px }
    .titlebar-buttonbox-container > .titlebar-buttonbox{ height: 100%; }
    
    /* Re-adjust window cotrols if menubar is permanently enabled  */
    :root[tabsintitlebar="true"]:not([inFullscreen]) #toolbar-menubar[autohide="false"]{ transform: translateX(0px); }
    :root[tabsintitlebar="true"]:not([inFullscreen]) #toolbar-menubar[autohide="false"] .titlebar-buttonbox-container{ height: 100%; }
    :root[tabsintitlebar="true"]:not([inFullscreen]) #toolbar-menubar[autohide="false"] .titlebar-button{ padding: 2px 17px !important; }
    
    @media  (-moz-platform: windows){
      #titlebar{ -moz-appearance: none !important; }
    }
    /* Move tabs below content */
    #main-window > body::after{
      content: "";
      display: flex;
    }
    #main-window[inFullscreen]:not([inDOMFullscreen]) > body::after,
    #main-window:not([inFullscreen]) > body::after{
      margin-bottom: calc(var(--tab-min-height) + 2 * var(--tab-block-margin,0px));
    }
    
    #TabsToolbar{
      position: fixed;
      display: block;
      bottom: 0;
      width: 100vw;
      height: calc(var(--tab-min-height) + 2 * var(--tab-block-margin,0px));
      --tabs-navbar-shadow-size: 0px;
    }
    #TabsToolbar:hover{ z-index: 1 }
    
    #TabsToolbar{ background-color: var(--lwt-accent-color); }
    #TabsToolbar-customization-target{ width: 100vw; }
    
    .tab-background{ border-top-style: none !important; }
    
    /* Hide stuff that doesn't make sense with tabs below content */
    #TabsToolbar > .titlebar-buttonbox-container,
    #TabsToolbar .titlebar-spacer{
      display: none !important;
    }
    :root[inFullscreen] #toolbar-menubar > .titlebar-buttonbox-container{ display: flex !important; }
    
    @supports -moz-bool-pref("browser.fullscreen.autohide"){
      #main-window[inFullscreen]:not([inDOMFullscreen]) > body::after{
        margin-bottom: 1px;
      }
      :root[inFullscreen] #navigator-toolbox:not(:hover) .titlebar-buttonbox-container{ display: none !important; }
    }
    
    That's possible too. Grab The violet monkey extension, then use this.

    Enable "browser.tabs.closeTabByDblclick" in about:config. Mark it true and restart. A lot of what you ask for I have in my config.
     
  12. Rasheed187

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    I have already tried other CSS hacks (wasted 30 minutes), but I'm guessing this will not put it on bottom of the screen, instead it will place it on bottom of the addressbar. With Waterfox you can do it via the settings. Firefox doesn't really care about power users, let's face it.

    Seems like too much work, why not use an extension dedicated to mouse gestures, see link? But even Edge has built-in mouse gestures.

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/gesturefy/

    Yes forgot about this. It will also allow you to stop Firefox from closing when the last tab is closed, but why aren't these options avaliable in the tab settings? I also noticed that you can open the bookmarks manager inside a tab via chrome://browser/content/places/places.xhtml, but you can't open bookmarks in the background and you also can't see the nickname/keyword, since there is no column for it. Vivaldi is way, WAY better.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/u8klsp/how_to_open_the_bookmark_library_tab_in_a_new_tab/
     
  13. anon

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    Vivaldi 6.6.3271.45

    Vivaldi improves Mail Search and Translate, extends Web Panels with extension support
    Web Panels gains page navigation and extension support, including Side Panel extensions. Redesigned Mail Search adds more ways to find your email. Website Permissions and Theming (Dark Mode) settings get overhauled – all in the new Vivaldi 6.6.
    February 29, 2024
    https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-6-6/
     
  14. Rasheed187

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    I'm not going to lie, I'm very disappointed with Vivaldi 6.6. They fixed none of the bugs that I reported and spend way too much time developing the stupid Web Panels and Vivaldi Mail, which I don't care for. Hopefully they have fixed the performance problems, haven't tested this yet.
     
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    Vivaldi 6.6.3271.48

    Minor update for Vivaldi Desktop Browser 6.6
    This update includes various small fixes and changes, along with security updates from Chromium upstream.
    March 6, 2024
    https://vivaldi.com/blog/desktop/minor-update-6-6/
     
  16. Rasheed187

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    Very disappointed with Vivaldi 6.6! I just have a feeling they don't really care about the stuff I reported, either that or they really have too little developers that can focus on certain things. I don't like the direction that Vivaldi is going in. Vivaldi 6.6 keeps hanging in memory (just like 6.4 and 6.5) and the performance starts to degrade the longer it stays in memory. You don't see this with any other browser like Edge and Firefox. I'm afraid it needs a complete redesign.
     
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    Isn't the latest version automatically offered through the package manager?
    Or is that not what you mean?
     
  19. longshots

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    Yes, you are correct.
     
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    The latest news is that finally a developer has said on the Vivaldi forum he will look into the problem regarding performance degradation and hanging in memory, that multiple people have reported. It's most likely related to some bug with resource management in Vivaldi 6.4/6.5/6.6.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_leak
     
  22. anon

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    Vivaldi 6.6.3271.53

    Minor update (3) for Vivaldi Desktop Browser 6.6
    This update includes a range of small improvements and also some security fixes from Chromium upstream.
    March 20, 2024
    https://vivaldi.com/blog/minor-update-three-6-6/
     
  23. anon

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    Vivaldi 6.6.3271.55

    Minor update (4) for Vivaldi Desktop Browser 6.6
    This update includes a range of crash fixes and also some security fixes from Chromium upstream.
    March 27, 2024
    https://vivaldi.com/blog/desktop/minor-update-four-6-6/
     
  24. JaneN

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    The number of tips has grown into over 450 posts now, so indeed browsing them was getting a bit difficult. We've now added categories to https://tips.vivaldi.net/, so you can take a look at tips about Vivaldi on the different platforms and services separately. :)

    You can also add Tips to your Feed Reader or follow the blog account on Vivaldi Social or any other Mastodon/Fediverse instance.
     
  25. Stupendous Man

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    Thanks.
    Vivaldi Tips 'Home' has 33 pages of tips.
    If I select 'Desktop' there are still 22 pages of tips to sift through. The Desktop sub-selections Mail, Calendar, and Feed Reader don't help if one is looking for tips for the Vivaldi browser. I would still need the tags at the bottom of the page, and even using the tags, sifting through tips would be a lot of work.
     
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