Viruses can remove anti-viruses again: Trojan.VkBase.1

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by sg09, Dec 19, 2010.

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  1. cgeek

    cgeek Registered Member

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    Interesting. :shifty:
     
  2. Page42

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    Password protect is a simple answer, is it not?
     
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  3. Raven_X

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    yeah but what about those AntiVirus like Avira Free that does not have a password protect ? :blink:
     
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    When you uninstall Avast it pops up a warning asking if this is you or malware that's doing it.
     
  5. Page42

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    Then password protect is not the simple answer. ;)
     
  6. Raven_X

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    hm weird..
    but can anyone answer how come avira free has not a password protect? to not exit or disable avira ?
     
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    AV companies have tools for forgotten password or removal tools for bad installs. I would guess that malware writers could easily reverse engineer these apps.
     
  8. TonyW

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    The fact there is malware named as Trojan.VkBase.1 means there is detection for it. No doubt vendors other than DrWeb will have definitions for this new trend. Once again, it's a cat-and-mouse game.
     
  9. cgeek

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    Password protect is only going to help if the process is running. Most AV's do not start in safe mode. Hence the following:
     
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    If the malware is running with the same level of privileges as the security software it's trying to disable it'll always have a fighting chance of success.
     
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    Good point about privileges. Which leads to the question of drop rights-type features, like Online Armor's Run Safer. If malware enters via a vector that is protected by dropped rights, the chance of success you refer to is no longer a fighting one, am I right?
     
  12. cgeek

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    Yes, you would think a limited user account with UAC on in Vista or Win 7 would defeat this. Wouldn't UAC alert to privilage escalation to install or reboot? It would be interesting to see what happens in this situation.
     
  13. 3GUSER

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    No for reboot . And in Safe mode UAC is by design off.

    Additionally UAC can easily be disabled by modern malware one an application gains admin access - I remember even here I have posted a screen with such an example . All that is required for malware - a simple tweak in the registry.
     
  14. andyman35

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    It certainly makes life a great deal tougher for the bad guys without doubt.

    The advocates of SRP & LUA,etc. here often put forward the argument that 'why run software such as browsers with rights any higher than they need to function correctly?' It's hard to dispute their logic.
     
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