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Discussion in 'NOD32 version 2 Forum' started by wattsvilleblues, Aug 25, 2005.

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  1. wattsvilleblues

    wattsvilleblues Registered Member

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    Eset claims to have not missed a single in the wild virus for 6 or 7 years, but on the Virus Bulletin website it gives two examples where NOD32 has failed:

    April 2002: SuSE Linux
    November 2000: Windows NT


    I was just wondering why there's a difference in these stories, since Eset uses the VB100% award to support its claims.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Firecat

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    I hope that helped. :)
     
  3. wattsvilleblues

    wattsvilleblues Registered Member

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    Was that with advanced heuristics enabled or just the definitions in use?

    But thanks that explains a bit:D!
     
  4. JimIT

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    These were likely due to fp's--not misses ITW.
     
  5. vee

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    they never claimed they got them all... vb100% award you get everytime when vb is conducting a test and AV passes it...

    R.
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  6. Patrician

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    And VB only tests ON Demand Scan NOT resident scanner. NOD's On-demand Scan is excelent, while it's resident scanner is some what lacking in detection capabilities.
     
  7. wattsvilleblues

    wattsvilleblues Registered Member

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    So you mean AMON is less effective than an on demand scan?
     
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    And your evidence of this would come from where exactly?

    Cheers :D
     
  9. JimIT

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    VB tests on-access scanning ability as well.
     
  10. mrtwolman

    mrtwolman Eset Staff Account

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    You are dead wrong. Just go to the Virus Bulletin site, browse to the Virus Bulletin - issues, register for free and login afterwards. You will get access and chance to read some back issues. Then after having someimagination on the test procedure, tests and results welcome back to discussion :)
     
  11. mrtwolman

    mrtwolman Eset Staff Account

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    Check on your own in Virus Bulletin Nov. 2000 issue and Virus Bulletin Apr. 2002 issue
     
  12. NGRhodes

    NGRhodes Registered Member

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    Patrician, where do you get your facts from ?!?

    http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/about/index.xml

    VB100% award is "Detect all In the Wild viruses during both on-demand and on-access scanning in Virus Bulletin's comparative tests."
     
  13. irnux

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    Which comparatives are more reliable ?
    `Virus Bulletin' or `av-comparative' ?
    the results are very different in these 2 sites.... :eek:
     
  14. webyourbusiness

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    they use different testing methodologies - you would probably want to read their methodologies and decide which one you find more appropriate.

    I like the proactive testing on AV-comparatives.org, I find it more useful to me as a "real world" user of av solutions - ie, I'm more likely to get a virus from an email before an update is out - which is exactly how Norton protection failed me in 2004 - update issued at 5-6pm and the virus/trojan landed on my machine from an email server bounce message (we run web hosting/mailservers) at 2PM...

    I don't care for any test that uses "zoo" viruses - if they aren't a "real" threat - why do I care who catches the most of them!?!?
     
  15. RejZoR

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    Now thats the misconception of many people that mess up Zoo malware with ItW. They think ItW is everything,but well... its not.
    If you think Zoo samples aren't threat too you than you're very very wrong.
    Actually i don't even understand why the hell do they call it Zoo when it can be downloaded anywhere you want,P2P,HTTP,FTP,you name it.
    If it's not actually pushed into your mailbox/IM that doesn't mean its not there.
    So yes,so called Zoo samples detection is also very important. Sometimes even more than ItW (to me for example...)
     
  16. webyourbusiness

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    to you RejZor - key point... honestly, I don't care about YOUR threat exposure... sounds selfish, but it's a fact - MY threat exposure is important to me... and anything that can hit me is an ItW virus... ok - so let's assume a "zoo" virus gets out... as long as my system has solid heuristics (like NOD32), I'm RELATIVELY safe... does it make me TOTALLY safe? ummm... no - and only a fool would think so. But I feel much safer with NOD32 than I EVER did with Norton!

    I guess if I was messing with viruses and threats all the time, I'd have a different perspective... I'm not though - how many of the nod32 purchasers are? Not a significant number I'd guess... but that's MY guess...
     
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