Either i'm misunderstanding something, or your tests seem biased. Are you saying you provide samples to a "Chosen Few" companies, and the rest are left to fend for themselves? If this is the case, then I must summarily discount your entire test results in my own mind. I've tested VBA32 to be 95%+ effective against Win/Win32 threats. The only thing I can't do is certify them (yet). Firefighters results seem identical to mine, yet I have no clue what his random samples contain... Also i've been appraised of a test where VBA32 was sampled against a large set of threats (80k+), and scored 96% on that as well. I'm also privy to Jotti showing VBA32 as extremely superior in detection. Is something amiss or am I just misunderstanding what is going on here?