Using ShadowSurfer: confused

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by PeterVO, Jan 30, 2006.

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  1. PeterVO

    PeterVO Registered Member

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    Hello,

    I started SS in ShadowMode, downloaded the install file for Sygate Personal Firewall and executed it. Sygate asked me to reboot the system to activate itself. The pc restarted as expected in ShadowMode but Sygate is nowhere to be seen nor activated? I thought all changes were only discarted when ShadowMode was disabled or is ShadowSurfer not usable when installed software recuires a reboot of the system?



    Kind regards,

    PeterVO
     
  2. BlueZannetti

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    PeterVO,

    With ShadowSurfer active, changes will not survive a user session (i.e. a reboot). ShadowUser does allow persistence of a shadow session across reboots, but ShadowSurfer does not. If you want the installation to survive, you have to perform it with Shadowsurfer disabled.

    Blue
     
  3. awg1011

    awg1011 Registered Member

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    I had been under the impression that when exiting shadow mode you were given the option of wrighting the changes to disc or now. I guess I was wrong.

    I have another problem with SS that I will start a new thread with.*puppy*
     
  4. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    ShadowUser has such an option. Shadow Surfer doesn't.
     
  5. Notok

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    Hence the reason for the free deal.. whets your appetite for the full version. Worked, didn't it? :D
     
  6. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    Nope.:D Like SS strictly for the surfing issue. Tried the full version and for serious stuff, I'll stick with FDISR.

    Pete
     
  7. Notok

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    Hehe, was actually addressing the original poster, but you bring up a good point that that can be handled by other things :)
     
  8. PeterVO

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    Hello Notok,

    thank you for your response but no thank you regarding my appetite for SadowUser. :D
    It'is only whetted by Belgian Chocolates, Brussel's Waffles, Brussel's Sprouts, Belgian Beer and its famous cuisine.*puppy*

    Kind regards,

    PeterVO
     
  9. BlueZannetti

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    Well,

    I can't imagine arguing with respect to the chocolate/waffles/beer, but ShadowSurfer is a good introduction to the basic product for anyone contemplating going to the full ShadowUser product.

    It is a very nice option to augment classical security options. Different from FD-ISR since it is more a wipe clean solution than a restore to a fixed point at any time approach.

    Blue
     
  10. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    Totally agree. I have starting using Shadow Surfer for occasional high risk surfing. It's the quickest way to be sure all junk is gone. Still can't beat having FDISR for those times when system goes cranky and won't boot.

    Pete
     
  11. aigle

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    Even with shadow user,you have to give option of save system to keep your insalled sotware threre,so if there is any bug in the new software, it will be saved. So i think any software which ask you to reboot after its installation,cannot be used safely even wih shadow user.
     
  12. BlueZannetti

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    aigle,

    As I mentioned already to you here, selecting the Option under the General tab of Persistence allow continuation of a shadow session between reboots. You will not have to commit or clear until you exit the session. This will accomplish what you desire and handle the install/reboot situation.

    Blue
     
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