Using AdBlock Plus Is Stealing

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by ronjor, Aug 17, 2007.

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  1. ronjor

    ronjor Global Moderator

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  2. dogma

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    LOL, I had to read it in order to believe it. IMO, he has no case.
     
  3. bigc73542

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    MR. Lewis is simply unbelieveable:blink: But I guess there are still stupid people out there.:doubt:
     
  4. WSFuser

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    Theres usually some method to block ads regardless of browser used. Ah well.
     
  5. Kilia

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    What next? :rolleyes:
     
  6. Pedro

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    Personally i don't use block lists. For some of those reasons.

    But, pointing the finger at Firefox is ridiculous. There are dozens of programs that block ads...

    A warning to website developers: if you block Firefox, clearly i'm not visiting your website anymore.
    Like me, i'm sure there are plenty of other people who won't give it a second thought.
     
  7. Kilia

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    Ditto on my end as well.
     
  8. Carver

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    Next they will want to outlaw anything that can block/Filter out SPAM :cautious: o_O
     
  9. FadeAway

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    Given the market penetration of Firefox, banning it would to be
    the last thing any rational advertiser would agree to.
     
  10. argus tuft

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    Jack is an idiot. Beyond that, words fail me. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Arup

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    Amen to ADBLOCK I say, Jack can RIP.
     
  12. innerpeace

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    I actually felt guilty for about 7 seconds, then I quickly got over it ;) . I could say more, but I'm not wasting my time. I have surfing to do that is quicker and safer thanks to FF and my 'evil' extensions.
     
  13. terryfowler

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    If the adverts were attractive/useful or not annoying to me I would read them not block them. The most annoying are those that have a moving image which is distracting no matter where you are looking on the web page. After all usually one does not read all the adverts in a magazine other than a casual look at the overall content to say 'that isn't relevant to me' and you turn the page.
     
  14. eniqmah

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    Actually,
    If you think about it...google's ads are generally accepted because they don't need to be so intrusive to effectively advertise...may be this dude should start another campaign and call it "lets get a little smarter in advertising".
     
  15. acknsyn

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    Jack is an idiot. There are also host file, privoxy, and many other programs that can be used for blocking...that run on IE or any browsers.
     
  16. Chuck57

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    I'd like to thank Jack Lewis. I've used Firefox for quite a while but had no idea such an extension was available until I read this thread earlier. I immediately downloaded it and.......no more of those pesky ads which were getting worse and worse to the point that I'd quit visiting some sites, especially discserver sites.

    Now, not a single ad....none. It's like surfing in the old days again. Adblocker is great, and I do NOT consider it stealing. Next he'll be saying email Spam control is some sort of crime.
     
  17. iceni60

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    he makes sense to me, but i think he should block every browser from his site because every browser maker allows ad blocking, they block popup ads. and here's an ad-blocker for IE
    http://www.ie7pro.com/

    opera allows this on their servers
    http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/ad-block

    :mad: :mad: i'm starting the - block every browser (apart from off by one) campaign.
     
  18. sukarof

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    In theory I guess he is right that free sites looses money when some use adblock. But as history shows - people are "stupid" in general. That is why spam works, that is why mail from Nigeria brings in money and that is why virus spreads and so on. There will be enough people who wont use ad blocking software and they will see the ads. And when they´ve seen the ads enough times, and when they are looking for products they will unconsciously remember the products name.
    We who choose not to see the ads are so few that it doesnt matter.

    Unless we agree that ads are a form of brainwashing, ads wouldn't give any income from users like us anyway. Because we (well me at least) don't like ads so ads wouldnt have any effect on us. So the discussion about stealing is pointless in that perspective.

    But personally I think ads is brainwashing, that is why I, the few times I watch a movie on a commercial channel without taping it first and fast forward past the commercials, change channel in every commercial break and block ads on the net. If I want to buy something I want to choose for my self when to search that information. So what he is really saying is: You must let us brainwash you or you wont be able to see this site.

    Social or guerrilla marketing however is harder to guard against.
     
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  19. ErikAlbert

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    Bill and Jack must be friends.
     
  20. danieleb

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    I happen to pay a great deal of money every month for my broadband connection. How can it be stealing if I then choose what I want to view?

    Edit Oh, and theres always the User Agent Switcher add-on
     
  21. lucas1985

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    I'd like to know what he'll say when someone get his/her computer infected by malware delivered through his site's ads :rolleyes:
     
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    While I feel there is some logic in the "stealing" argument. The above quote from lucas 1985 hits the nail on the head. Why do we have adblockers, javascript blockers, flash blockers, cookie managers, etc. If more advertisers and website developers had such an ethical awareness as Jack Lewis, many of these tools would have never been developed.

    edit: I have noscript, adblocker plus, and shazou. I obviously feel the above-mentioned logic is not too compelling.
     
  23. Chuck57

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    I don't care about the banner ads, except that they slow down a site's loading. I never look at them anyway.

    What annoys me are these new ads they've come up with that pop up with their idiotic flashing or pics, or whatever. They block what you're reading until you acknowledge them and click the fool things off - after which they appear in some other form. Discserver is the worst for these, or maybe I just spend more time on discserver with several history forums.

    In any case, until they figure out a way to get around Firefox's adblocker, I'm now free of them, and it's wonderful.
     
  24. Climenole

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    Hi all :)

    Funny ...

    There's one things this guy forget:

    any webmaster can put advertising in their web sites
    BUT
    when a user established a connection to this web site
    this user have the absolute right to choose what he is downloading from this site on HIS computer...

    Like say Steve Gibson:

    This is MY computer

    :)
     
  25. tlu

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    An interesting read are three postings by Wladimir Palant (author of Adblock Plus) covering the "Ethics of blocking ads": here, here and here
     
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