Users Still Not Willing to Abandon Windows XP

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  1. Baserk

    Baserk Registered Member

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    Most XP users in the Netherlands will likely be forced to change their OS in 365 days time when MS stops offering XP security updates.
    I'm willing to bet that soon afterwards, online banking on XP will be considered 'dangerous' by the banks because 'not supported anymore' and therefor not in compliance with the legal agreement between client and bank.
    A FUD circus in around a year about all this wouldn't surprise me.
     
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    Which is honestly just saying "Screw security". I just can't recommend people use severely outdated programs, especially in combination with a severely outdated OS. The risks just aren't worth it.
     
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    Not necessarily, I downloaded an older version of Google Earth for my notebook which works better than the most recent version. AFAIK no communist Chinese have tried to hack me through it.

    It all depends on the program, I wouldn't recommend an outdated browser, but I think that many people running XP are aware of its security limitations as an OS & could run older apps with an understanding of their shortcomings. There is a distinction between 'severely outdated' programs & those which are just older & will run better on certain , perhaps older, systems.
     
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    I am still using WinXP and I will continue to use it no matter when the support will end. When the hardware or the games I play will no longer support XP, that means it's time to move on. But until then, I don't see any reason to upgrade.
     
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    as i read that i was thinkin 'this guy sure makes xp users seem stupid' till i got towards the end where he says he's being sarcastic.

    probably alot of people out there could keep using xp for awhile, keeping secure by hardening their systems with security apps, online armor, appguard, etc? unless they'd have some compelling reason to upgrade?

    i run win7, but really, my favorite os has always been windows server 2003, which is a bit like xp on steroids :p
     
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    Well, sure, there are some differences and yeah it does depend on the program. If it's some system tweaker tool that isn't ever going to be exposed to the internet, I'm with you somewhat. Media players, browsers, file tools like WinRAR, no, these need patched and kept tabs on. The problem with counting on people to know these shortcomings, is that most don't. They think "Well, it still runs fine for me" or "I don't care, I want this game to run". You also have to consider that a good portion of these XP machines are pirated. Of course, pirates aren't the type to worry all that much about security generally.
     
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    I can only look after the security on computers that I personally run. That's the most that any of us can do. The only malware I ever contracted was on Vista (when Vista was new) with an up-to-date AV (Norton). I was also running SpywareBlaster & SUPERAntiSpyware (on-demand). Luckily SAS found & removed the offending trojan (unlike Norton). I was running an up-to-date version of SeaMonkey when the trojan slipped in through a flash advert. The plain fact of the matter is that any system can be compromised. Admittedly the older the system the probabilities are higher.
     
  9. acr1965

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    Is there any way MS would just offer to sell a usable XP Pro x64 upgrade for XP users? I guess the first run at x64 XP Pro had many problems but I wonder if it's anything a service pack could fix? Maybe it would be a way for MS to receive some money (as opposed to zero return on current XP users) while at the same time offering a compromise for the XP devotees.
     
  10. Trooper

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    Win 7 is so much better than XP, why are you folks holding out? Just curious?
     
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    XP x64 is an entirely different animal. It is based on Win 2003 Server, and many of the usual programs that we use (AV's for instance) won't run on it or aren't compatible. If you want x64, you're best off using 7...
     
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    I'm in the same boat. I was a WinXP user until late last year when I built a new computer. I loved WinXP and now I love Win8. I don't have a touch screen monitor or use a third party Start Menu but I can run Win8 almost identically to the way I ran WinXP. The learning period is short.

    Win8 is faster than the others. I have WinXP, Win7 and Win8 on this computer so each OS is using the same hardware.
     
  13. a) Cost
    b) Hardware turnover (i.e. more cost)
    c) What I have now works, so why upgrade?

    People quickly tire of "progress" when it costs them time and money.
     
  14. Kerodo

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    Yep, the time for change comes for most people when they buy a new machine...
     
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    Definitely.
     
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    is that to say, you can configure windows 8 to appear and behave like the more "classic" operating systems?
     
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    I run Windows 7. Before that I run Vista, and even Vista after the SP1 package I didn't mind it. I actually liked Vista a lot until Win7.

    There are many reasons why one should jump ship, leave XP in the dust! But, if people knows and don't care and still wish to remain on XP. I say all the power to these people! :D
     
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    All valid points. I have not used XP (at home) in quite some time. Im still using a PC I built in 2006, though I need to get a new one soon.

    Started with XP, to Vista, to Win 7. The speed factor alone caused me to want to upgrade.

    However for a new PC, I would still stick with 7. No interest in 8 at all. For those of you still on XP, what do you use your machines for? Daily driver or other?
     
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    I didn't do any configuring to make it look different.

    I'm not suggesting WinXP users should upgrade to Win8 unless they are installing an OS on a new computer. I'd still be using WinXP if I hadn't upgraded my hardware.
     
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    why did the new hardware cause you to move to 8?
     
  21. Brian K

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    I'd been testing Vista, Win7 and Win8 over the last few years on a test computer and I preferred Win8 over Win7. I think it's faster. As Win8 only cost $40, that was a bonus. I bought a few licenses.
     
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    much obliged for your thoughts-- so you feel that 8 is faster than vista and 7, or faster than any os as yet to come? also what were the specs on that test computer?
    tx
     
  23. Brian K

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    Win8 is faster (subjectively). Each OS seems faster than its predecessor. But as I mentioned before, I wouldn't upgrade a WinXP computer to a more recent OS in view of the work involved. I was happy with the slower WinXP.

    I've used several test computers. The most recent is a Pentium D Dell 9150. My favourite test computer was a Dell 4600 (it died recently) but it wouldn't run the final Win8 builds (old processor). I have about 30 OS variants in the 9150.
     
  24. chrome_sturmen

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    ive used xp, server 2003 and 7, and i found xp and/or server 2003, to be quicker than 7. with xp/server 2003, once id gleaned down the unnecessary services etc, they really ran almost eerily quiet, i had to hit a website or something to keep from feeling isolated o_O

    similarly tweaking 7 didn't produce quite the same results, though it does run much quicker than coming outta the box. these were all tested on the same box which is a little dated at this point, so that may've made a difference, i cant be sure. seems it would stand to reason though, that if an os runs quicker on an older machine, itd also run quicker in a similar state on a newer machine

    server 2003 in particular, i had it down to running so few services when first configuring it, that i had to click around and perform my usual tasks, just to believe that everything was working o_O
     
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    Microsoft will help me with windows issues?? Lol I don't remember last time I called MS for help with windows. I think that was 15 years ago... They still do that?
     
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