UltimateDefrag - is this the best defragger ever?

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by OliverK, Nov 1, 2006.

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  1. Trailblazerman

    Trailblazerman Registered Member

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    Hi Rob,
    I'm having a problem with resizing the MFT with the slider on one of my drives.

    It is a 640GB SG External Drive on XP Pro SP3. When I choose the Boot Time tab and try to change the current 74GB MFT with the slider, no matter which way I go with the slider, the MFT size number gets bigger. Then as I continue to move it, it goes wild going through terrabytes and then ends on being a huge negative number.

    I've tried everything. I can resize using the slider on my other drives with much smaller MFT sizes. An easy fix would be to allow me to enter the size manually in MB's.

    Thanks, Craig
     
  2. Access Denied

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    Boot defrag on Win 7 worked perfectly.
     
  3. Banshee

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    Same here.They said they will reply in 48 hours ( 3 days ago) .Nada. No refund yet.

    This is getting ridiculous. I think that when somebody suggested disktrix was not reputable they were being very nice. ppftt
     
  4. NTxLS

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    Re: Defrag - for the best I have seen . . .

    Greetings from LeonSprings, TEXAS USofA,

    Had a friend suggest JKDefrag http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/and so far, with Vista Home Premium SP1 even, all seems to work great and will give you some increase in speed. Some times it may take a little longer than most but what you get out is SUPERB. It runs in automatic and goes through about four (4) operations and reorganizes your system. Give it a big + and a try.

    Posted the WRONG link for the JKDefrag I am using, it is by Kessels and the correct link is there now.

    Thank you for reading my toaster posty it has been a long time since I have been here,
     
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  5. Peter2150

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    This thread is about Ultimate Defragger. Please do not post about other defraggers in this thread.

    Thanks,

    Pete
     
  6. mantra

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    but comodo could create some issues
     
  7. rdsu

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    I don't see any here...
     
  8. mantra

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    do you use comodo +ultimate defrag boot disk?
     
  9. rdsu

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    Yes...
     
  10. Access Denied

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    To answer the thread title question......YES.

    I've just got done tinkering with UD and I've got Windows 7 going woooosh! All I did was move my pagefile and hiberfile out a tad, told it to use strict placement and chose Auto, with all data outside, respect hi perf. I let UD do the work on boot, defragged on next boot, rebooted and boy, I can see a huge difference over what I had before.

    This was a Win 7 install that was Acronis'd over to the RAID. I formatted (full option btw) and reloaded 7 on here few days ago, but just used the windows defrag in the start menu. UD has made a nice improvement over the default defragger. :cool:
     
  11. NTxLS

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    Pete ole boy,

    Did not realize that was the title of a DEFRAG program, and will not do that again.

    Just have not been on here very much and for a rather long time, about 5 mo. and just was reading and thought I would SHARE in here. EXCUSE ME!!!!

    Sorry about that, need to do more reading and less posting until I learn more of the ins and outs on here.

    Thank you for reading my postsers toaisters,
     
  12. EASTER

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    Yes indeed!

    UD is what turned my head another 360 when after a few days of tweaking the placements and going the boot defrag route my XP Pro took off like a banshee! Snappier and much smoother opening of apps with nice response compared to before.

    I just hope UD continues to improve and the current version doesn't falter at some stage down the line, because it's defrag after my routine cleaning technique really puts the rubber to the road. And hopefully all this will also preserve and prolong the life of the HD itself.

    I've ressurrected some pretty battered hard drives in my time but with a Super-Defragger like UD, it raised the bar a good deal and has some older drives with mileage on them running better then they ever have before. One in particular i been leary of is Quantumm Fireball, but some common maintenance and application of UD has me doing a double-take that it could run this good again. I dunno about the best ever, but it's definitely among the better ones from my experience with it.

    EASTER
     
  13. plutoe

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    I myself too had experienced the boot-time defrag error, $mtf, etc.. in which the boot-time defrag menu exit and booted back into windows. Adjusting the options or even using Udefrag default boot-time defrag made no difference.

    It was only after using paragon total defrag recovery CD, and performing a boot defrag which sorted the paging file that allowed Udrag to successfully perform the boot-time defrag on subsequent attempts.

    The original page file was scattered across the drive in 3 or 4 fragments.
    This machine is a windows xp sp3, with 2 partition from one 60gb drive (dell laptop)

    On a second test machine, running windows 2008 server. Boot defrag was working but then stopped. I was adjusting the pagefile location to be at position 0 instead of the default $MFT etc.. being before it. Now boot time defrag would just idle at analyzing.... I have left this for an hour and forcefully power off the machine. I have tried several time now with the same result and even tried Paragon total defrag recovery CD to resort the paging file. chkdsk have been performed on this drive to check drive for integrity.

    Hope this assist with the developer tracking this bug.
     
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  14. EASTER

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    Definitely a bug. I tried moving the pagefile myself on another drive and got some weirdness too only not as severe as yours, i rebooted again, got the UD Finshed Boot Defrag Screen and when i went back to check that the position indeed moved, the indicator was in the same place it was before the BootDefrag & error.

    So something either is not fully functional or theres more we need to be informed about on how to go about getting this Boot Defrag to run as expected each and everytime and without error or worse.

    In the meantime i'm sticking with the normal defrag & file placements features that do work as claimed.

    EASTER
     
  15. mantra

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    yesterday ultimate defrag shut down with a windows the data are lost during a degrag

    in the log eventvwr.msc
    event id 1000

     
  16. plutoe

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    formatted a clean drive for testing and left it blank with no data. when moving $mft, $logfile, $bitmap, $etc, via the boot-time defrag to the most inner track, an error was noticed during defrag but files were moved.

    Error message: "SORRY - UNSUPPORTED ALLIGNMENT REQUIR" (missing an E)
    analyzing... Done!
    verifying... Done!
    Moving $MFT.. Done!
    etc...

    When back into windows, I notice that Udefrag is unable to move these files:
    $Tops:$T:$DATA
    $TxtLog.blf
    many $TxtLogContainer00000
    $TxtLog
    tracking.log

    When using Paragon Total defrag recovery CD, everything can be moved.
    just an observation.

    When moving files to the outer track, (begining of disk), via boot time defrag, same error above recorded, same files moved and same files unable to move. in other words same results.

    the test drive is formatted NTFS, single partition. screenshot taken by camera to record error message.
     
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  17. Access Denied

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    What OS are you runnning please?
     
  18. mantra

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    xp sp2 with the last fixes
     
  19. mantra

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    where does ultimate defrag 2008 the info for the (number of days) past days data was used ?

    option->high performance ->automatic
     
  20. Osaban

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    I really can't complain about anything, it is doing its job with no problems. I only use it with the option 'Consolidate/Very fast placement'.

    The only odd thing is an update window that appears every week or so, which gives the options to update by clicking or to directly download the update. Whatever I choose, nothing happens and I usually have to start the program again if I want to use it.
     
  21. prius04

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    Looks like it could be "UDefrag.xml" - in \DiskTrix\UltimateDefrag2008. Not 100%, though.

    I used to get the same behavior except the program froze only when I chose to get the update. Even after .55 was released at a time when I had .53, the update feature didn't work. I just logged in and downloaded the latest build.

    There hasn't been another build since .55, obviously, but I was still getting that update window fairly often. I got sick of it and, similar to the extra "iexplore.exe" file, I found and deleted "upd.htm" in the UD2008 folder and haven't seen the update window since.
     
  22. mantra

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    thanks but i mean how ultimatedefrag knows which are the more past days data used ? i mean where does ud grab the information to determine wich are the more used data for example in the last 5 days past


    sometime ud2008 defrag engine-> strict placement , i found a strange behavior
    I start to defrag , it puts the most used data in the outer track (and seems to work 100% , as ud2008 is finishing the job , re-move the more used data the middle zone of the drive and leave half ring of the outertrack blanck:thumbd: o_O o_O o_O o_O o_O
     
  23. Osaban

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    It's good to know that this has happened to somebody else, as a matter of fact, now that you've mentioned it, my system froze once or twice, except being a defragger I didn't give too much importance. I might follow your remedy and delete the file upd.htm.

    I'm not going to waste any time posting a query with support, but if the developers are reading this rather rich thread about their product, they ought to give an explanation as why have an updater that not only doesn't update but interferes with the the host OS.
     
  24. prius04

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    I agree. I'll add that they also need to provide explanations for several other program anomalies as well.


    That I don't know. I know that such data is stored in the MFT (along with a bunch of other file/folder information), however -- just not sure if the s/w has access to it or uses something else. When you say "more used data", though, could that be anything other than "last accessed"? I mean, is there actually a record, anywhere, of how many times a file is opened or the length of time it's been used?


    Same deal here except, on the visual representation, my outermost track shows half a ring empty, the middle section completely empty, and the innermost tracks with tons of files.
     
  25. DOSawaits

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    In any case, it's scary to know that for what they call "The Best Defragger in the world" you better make a complete backup, every time before laying your hopes in that "Best Defragger in the world" ! :blink:
     
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