UltimateDefrag - is this the best defragger ever?

I have checked out Puran 6. It left my MFT reserved zone completely orphaned from the actual MFT and at the upper cluster numbers and left 3 critical metafiles fragmented and I didn't see any options to customize.

 

Does the boot time screen not allow any input at all or just selecting and resizing the MFT?

 

What exactly is the error/behavior that you get on each of these systems?

 

On *most*, it was the logfile error reported by several other UD 2008 users in this thread. Something like:

ERROR $LogFile restart pages differ
ERROR $LogFile is not clean

On two of the other machines on which I tried to get boot time defrag to work, I received an entirely different error. Unfortunately, I can't recall what the screen said, exactly, because it disappeared so quickly and that was just a few tests I did quite some time ago (after the module had already failed on another machine).

Regardless, boot time defrag returned an error on all of the PCs I listed with the predominant one being that logfile error. I tried some minor troubleshooting (e.g. uninstalling software I thought might be causing a conflict, cleaning the registry) without success.

 

No offense Prius but I find it interesting and perhaps relevant that you are using Dell. My experience of Dell is that they are very good from a hardware point of view but have very unusual ways of configuring their machines. Many imaging problems occur simply because the user is working with a Dell. It wouldn't surprise me if HP also try to make their machines difficult.

Using Non proprietary machines where I have installed everything I have been unable to find one where boot time defrag hasn't worked as advertised. It could be that it works for me because I don't use controlling security programs but my money is on the way DEll set up their machines. Hopefully Disktrix will be able to try UD out on a number of Dell and HP machines ?

 

I'm curious as to what people think about the overall concept of UD,personally i like the idea and use the fileplacement strategy to my advantage,it really speed things up so i'm a satisfied user.
I can't comment on the bootdefrag because i use the free version 1.72(yes i bought licences in 2008,at the the time it was not free).

 

does somebody try paragon Total Defrag 2009?http://www.paragon-software.com/home/total-defrag/

there is a boot cd to defrag offline ...i have never tried

 

Rob_F,

Can you check out (and hopefully fix) the bug as posted here please ?

 

If you wish to have a discussion along these lines, start a new thread for that purpose.

Let's keep this thread focused on UltimateDefrag. Thanks in advance.

Blue

 

Long View, only one of the machines resembles anything like a standard Dell with a standard Dell configuration. With respect to the others, I have done everything from adding RAM, adding and changing HDDs, optical drives, video cards, etc. In fact, the system boards, PSUs, and cases are pretty much the only things remaining that makes the PCs "Dells". So, these machines don't resemble the way Dell configured them when they shipped; all C drives have had clean installs of new OSes (whether MCE2k5, XP Pro or Home) and almost all of the hardware has been swapped out.

I have had zero imaging problems, really; both SPD and ATI have worked just fine (SPD seems to work better for me, though). Also, in the past, I have used DK Pro Premier and PD 2008 to do boot time defrags on a few of these machines and have had absolutely no issues. So, sorry, but based on my experience and the experiences of others using UD in this thread, this is an issue for the developer to solve; just because Disktrix can't figure out why it's happening doesn't mean it's somehow the fault of those for whom the module doesn't work.

 

Just selecting and resizing.

Sorry. I have done all the debug work I am going to do for you. Your attitude and arrogance are just too much to take. I will keep following the forum and when you get the problem fixed, I will reinstall and try it again.

 

oh well - there goes that theory. I must admit I was thinking mainly of laptops.

Had some fun with an Acer a few weeks ago. Shadow Protect made an image ok but when Restored Vista wanted to be activated again. Changed C: from NTFS FAT16b to NTFS and now no problem. why do these companies do it ? Oh yes I remember - to try and force people to ise their programs.

So have I but to be fair these boot time defrags have not been designed to let the user change placement location or the order of the files.

Fully agree - the developer is the one who will have to solve the problem but users also have to understand that no program ever written works for everyone all of the time. I don't think that any developer is at fault simply because a program doesn't work for everyone. How they handle the reported faults is another matter. There are just too many combinations of hardware and software to check. If enough users contact a developer problems can usually be solved.

 

How is a boot time chkdsk not offline? It has complete access to the file system and the OS is at the same state of loading that offline defrags operate in.

 

Fully agree! - but I'll hasten to inject that if this issue had been handled properly, I, for one, would be more than understanding. Unfortunately, from what I've seen and read (particularly here), the issue doesn't appear to have been given any kind of priority whatsoever. In fact, it appears as if the issue is barely being acknowledged as legitimate, despite the fact that the **majority of UD 2008 users who have posted in this thread** can't get the boot time module to function.

Simply put, if Rob would dump the, as Silver might put it, "attitude and arrogance", I would be infinitely more understanding and empathetic.

 

I have just tried the demo of Puran 6 and could not see how to have some files on the outer edge and others archived to the middle. If this is possible I will look again. The main problem though seems to be that a number of users are having trouble with the boot defrag of UD 2008. I got the impression from post #625 that Puran was able to do a boot defrag which allowed the user to move the files and to change their order ? Is that correct ? All I was able to do was do a normal reboot defrag.

 

but with a hard disk with 3 partitions
C: D: E:

if ud boot disk ruins and corrupts the mft of C: , could this extend, expand to the other partitions for example D: and E:?

 

The files are loaded into memory. Is there any file system operation chkdsk cannot perform when run from the hard drive?

 

Respect Layout.ini does NOT work 100%

ultimate defrag puts mp3 and installation file on the outtrack to load more fast and make the boot of my xp fast

but it put lots of in vain files , like mp3 , jpg and installation files(some installation programs that i save on the desktop)

 

Maybe it's not supposed to but i ran into problems with UD boot defrag when trying it on multiple partitions.

Now on single partitions, full disk, it works for me anyway without issue. Maybe it's not consistent yet in it's functions to carry out the complete boot time but only on single partition drives? Dunno

Anyone able to confirm? Refute this suspicion of mine?

EASTER

 

do you mean you have 1 hard disk with some partitions
and you found that run a boot defrag C: doesn't cause issues
insteed if you run a boot defrag c: d: e: in the same run , it couses problems

 

Ditto; one partition on all drives and boot time doesn't work.......or does it?

Anytime I tried running boot time defrag, I saw the screen that returned a "$Logfile error" and nothing else. UD would simply quit, do nothing, and then boot back into Windows.....or so I thought.....

......last night I moved the position slider for the system file group and, again, tried a boot time defrag. Initially, I got the same screen with the $Logfile error but then, sometime later, another screen whizzed by. I swear that last screen indicated that 'boot time defrag was complete' **and** I noticed, for the very first time, that the starting cluster in the boot time tab had changed to where I had previously moved it.

Not sure what to make of the foregoing other than something is broken but not *completely* broken.

 

I'll ditto your ditto...

 

Is your "ditto" limited to "it doesn't work", period?

Can you move the slider and, if so, does the starting cluster change after rebooting?