UltimateDefrag - is this the best defragger ever?

how are you measuring defragmentation ?

 

It's up the air which super defragger can assume the claim or an award as the best and it can be argued other ones are too, but i never gave so much attention to specialty defragging or strategic file placement up untill ULTIMATE DEFRAG came along, and for the first time since even having a computer, i now notice a very high marked improvement in performance because of this App.

And i have tried all the other big players in this field.

EASTER

 

There is only so much that defragmenting can do. File placement on the other hand means that you can have an OS and programs as small as a few hundred meg with all the other usually unused files archived out of the way. smaller means faster.

 

hmm well after defrag with ud perfectdisk reports 0% fragmentation.. where before i could not get it past .05% but ud still shows 1.7% fragmented...??

 

Seems impressive.

By using the default Auto option and the volume info-fragmented files defrag option-also have a 100% defrag.score(actually 1 file wasnt defragged)-most unusual.

I like the speed and the "technical" layout-nice change from the boring ones.

The file accessibility and transparency available from the desktop is reassuring-demystifies defragging somewhat.

Edit-just double checked with JK Defrag-its log in fact confirmed that ONLY 1 file needed to be defragged . UD works!

 

Rob_F,
I have UD and still in trial mode. Before I ran it last night fragmentation was at 30% after the 2nd pass it was only at 29%. After the 3rd pass fragentation was a disgusting 46% !! OS is Vista Ultimate, HDD is a Seagate 320GB. I apologize but, I don't remember the otions I used forthe defrag but, I think one was "Auto". What do you think happened ? There are files on the outside of the disk, fragmented and various others. In the middle of the drive are more various but, a lot more fragmented files. I don't want to run this again it might continue to get worse.

 

Hey Fellahs,

So I've been using UD for a while now, and I really like it. However, on my Disk Map I have quite a few "green blocks" that are scattered around my "high performance" areas. When I click on them they are listed as "Used", with no other info. These Green "Used" blocks / files do NOT defragment, no matter what switch settings and file filters I try, or even with "boot defrage enable".

When I run the Windows defragger it also shows green "unmovable" blocks. I figure these are the same ones I'm seeing on UD.

I'm concerned about them as they actually seem to be impacting my High Perf area ~ UD won't actually put very many files to the outer edge due to the limited space(s) available between the green blocks :-/

So... how do I defrag / move these "unmovable" mystery blocks?

 

I had the same problem with my C: drive last year. Close to half the drive was filled with green blocks that wouldn't defrag. I later found out it was due to bad permissions on a folder (and contained files) in the WinSxS folder ( that I had previously been messing with). After I fixed that, there were practically no green blocks and UD worked fine.

 

Hi,

Those unmovable blocks are 'in use', (by programs for example) to free up some of these blocks, try rebooting, then start to defrag

Or, to free up even more of these unmovable blocks, try defragging in Safe Mode (tap F8 on boot) where only the important services are running .'. freeing up more blocks of memory that would be in use in normal mode

hope that helps!

 

So how do I figure out what folder(s) might have a problem? And then how do I fix that problem?

Thanks,

Mike B.

 

You can do it with secedit.exe and defltwk.inf but Dial-A-Fix can supposedly do it too (probably does the same thing).

Have a look here: http://wiki.lunarsoft.net/wiki/Repair_permissions

 

Yeah, I tried the reboot but no significant change. Also tried booting in Safe mode, and this actually DID cut down a good amount of green blocks. I'm gonna give the Repair Permissions a try and go from there. Figure it can't hurt, right?

Thanks for all the help,

 

No system file defrag/placement update in over 5 Months. Looks like develpopment has stalled.

 

The main thing users have been waiting for is the boot time defragmentation module for UD 2008, which was scheduled to arrive a few months ago. It looks like they've either hit snags with that or something. An update on their site to explain the latest situation would be nice for those that are using the 2008 version.

 

I think they have gone belly up.

No reason except lack of updates and any changes or comments in this forum.

Silver

 

Could be. Disktrix, Inc. is a South Carolina corporation which, itself, is still in good standing. That fact, standing alone, doesn't mean a whole lot, though.

The primary issue from my perspective (as a potential purchaser of the product at some point) is that this really does appear to be a one-man show.....a "he" rather than a "they". As such, I wouldn't be surprised to learn of any one of a number of circumstances that caused development to slow to a crawl or cease altogether.

 

UD does do a nice job, and with placing the most used apps on the outer edges you do see some speed increase.

But I think this idea of performance placement might get goofy down the road for a user.

Perfect example, you use a program(s) for a long time, then for whatever reason you don't and you are then using the ones you didn't, so guess what, now you have to shuffle the drive around...

This is one thing that has kept me back from using this, because when it comes to applications I have quite a few, sometimes I'm busy with some, sometimes I'm not, and if you're shuffling the drive around like this all the time, I wonder how well the drive is going to deal with this in the long haul.

Now I guess for those more settled users that have their favorite apps they just use over and over, and things, well never change, then this is going to be good.

 

Yes same here. I have exe, dll, sys and inf's to allways high performance and strict placement (sorted). My pc is fast as day one.

 

Has anyone actually got any before/after benchmarks ?

Do you guys disable pre-fetch (because it wont matter where you place your exes and dlls from a performance point of view with pre-fetch enabled) as they will always be read out of the prefetch files that are specifically optimised.

 

Correct, but the files are reorganised...

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc302206.aspx

 

Nick, you seem to know quite a bit on the subject, so i'm just going to dump a question.

Wouldn't the real benefit be in the fact that UD can get all your chosen files/folders, independently of frequent use, to the faster part of the disk, in contrast to only frequent accessed files not necessarily on the faster part of the disk?