UltimateDefrag - is this the best defragger ever?

Yeah I checked already that I had those folder settings applied, sorry, should have included that in my first post. Also I'm using the Free Public Domain Version.

 

Disktrix indicated there was a problem with Vista metafiles with the first release. The latest release supposedly fixes this. Looks like your problem.

 

I'm using XP (SP2)

Sorry for the pathetic amount of detail supplied

 

well...

Restarting and running UD again...and repeating that several times seems to have finally got around the issue.

I'm at the stage now where I'm tweaking it (I really need to give my poor hard drive a rest) and I have to say, some of my program load times are seriously improved, especially the big lumps like Visual Studio. Props to the developers, this kicks the ass of XP's built in defrag and Auslogics in terms of benefits that I'm experiencing.

 

Although I find UD an excellent program I have found one rather irritating problem:

I have been setting my data drive to "past days data was used". I originally had some of the data compressed and uncompressing meant that ALL data was used. After 2 weeks I was able to set High performance to 14 days with Archive for 15 days plus. Today I used Karen's Replicator to back up all data files to an external drive and then used Beyond Compare 2 to do a CRC file comparison. This reset all files to being used today - making the "past days data was used" method useless. The % most frequently used method still works but I wonder if there is some way that "past days" could be fixed so that it could tell the difference between files being compared, compressed or uncompressed and files really being used ? Probably not

 

btw ... what the diff between archive and high performance ? i mean u can "RESPECT " them both during defrag....so what are the "High performance "? (if u custon select arhive +HP same folders)

 

You'd be better off asking the authors of Beyond Compare to add an option to restore the original Last Used Date after a CRC file comparison - this would be very easy to do.

 

Thanks - good idea. I have written to them. Do you think that it is the compare that has changed the date or could it be karen's Replicator that changed when backing up ?

Am now using % data most frequently used - which seems to work fine

 

It could also be KR that has changed it, and most likely both have changed it.

 

Had a reply from BC

"BC shouldn't change the dates when it scans or compares files. Dates can change when copying from one location to another using BC, though the same date change would occur if you used My Computer/Explorer to perform the copy (we use the same method)."

So looks like KR is the cause. Normally I image my data with Shadow Protect. I will try KR again but looks like there will be no problem over time if I don't use copy methods.

 

Ive never trialled ultimate defrag ,so thought now was a good time.As a long time time user of mstdefrag ,ive never had to play with settings or understand how it works...it just defrags in the background when needed.I must confess that as novice to things technical ,i was disappointed with ultimate defrag 2008.After downloading the trial i had an email and was told to read the 48 page .pdf file.Mmmm ,im sorry bit my attention span runs to about 2 pages.I want a defrag programme that auto chooses the best setup for me because i dont know what is the best set up for me.I dont really want to read a 48 page .pdf file either ad then try to understand what it its saying.The auto function in ultimate defrag doesnt seem to give optimum results so i cant see anything gained there.Sorry to be negative but i personally dont think ultimate defrag is for the set it and forget it user or for the novice.
ellison

 

Yes it is strange how the number of options can be off putting. which is a pity really because to my way of thinking many of the options are not all that important.

you want a simple manual ?

1) go to options and set up high performance at 20% Most Frequently used data
2) go to options and set up archive at 80% Most Frequently used data
3) pick any of the options consolidate, File, Recency, volatility and then start

all the stuff not used gets stored away on the slow bit of the drive. all the stuff that gets used all the time is ready on the fast bit.

everything else is just fine tuning

 

It sounds really good ,but why is there a 48 page manual if its that simple i ask myself....and why doesn't auto do that for me if its the best configuration to use?.Im just wondering how a novice (like myself) would come to that conclusion if they didn't frequent wilders?.Ill try those settings though
ellison

 

is Most Frequently correct?

 

Unless it keeps track of what's getting used and how often, it only knows what's used last, and that's the biggest weakness of this approach. If you happen to open a large number of large, rarely accessed files, they will be moved to the high performance area on the next defrag, only to be moved back after they fall under the threshold again. There are ways to deal with this by adding specific files and file types to the archive list but it's a lot of fussing around.

I believe Diskeeper's i-Faast does some kind of usage tracking to detirmine what goes at the end of the drive.

 

It helps excluding rarely used files, after they are moved to archive zone, from future scans. This way defrag is really fast. I always make a folder/filename defrag with all options on and in the options high performance 40%, strict placement including .exe, .dll and .sys, archive 60% very fast placement including .cab, .chm and .msi and respect layout.ini. Note: i only use this after making a regular folder/filename defrag with all options on like above except "Complete high performance then stop" and archive fast placement (consolidate).

 

i found something realy wierd.... when tag respect archive(on auto)+HP(coustom folder selected) it put the data in the inner track which is very
slow

i tag onlly HP (coustom folder selected) and what a suprize....in put all in the outer track (the fastest)..... so what is this "respect archive" is stand for? (or auto same crap append)?

cheers

 

Respect archive means it respects the options you made in the options for archive. Archive to the inner is right and High performance to outer. On Auto there is no respect archive to tick on.

 

High performance = archive? so what archive stand for? coz u can select respect for coustom archive + HP for same folders...so how can it be?

 

High performance does NOT = Archive but the reverse.

 

if so ... what UD2008 moved to the HP area when u select RESPECT HP ?

 

It moved high performance files to the HP area.

 

and if i select BOTH respect archive + respect HP and coustom TAG same dirs for them (eg c:\windows c:\program files) what it will do than?

 

has the boot time been added yet. this is what im waiting for to play with this. i see a newer version .51 i think and it states boot time defrag but does it actually work now??

id like to see how this does against perfect disk.. thanks

 

okay with perfect disk i get .05% defragmentation.. with disktrix i get 3.9%

so who is right