Maybe. I'm a bit ambivalent with this, I'm naturally suspicious and sceptical, but I'm guessing they aren't mining as much as Google or M$.
They are also a European company and need to comply with all them acronym rules coming into effect soon. Mrk
Well, technically they're a British company, so I'm not sure about all them acronym rules after the UK leaves the EU.
Well here we go. The rot spreads to Linux. I couldn't agree more. We all know there's a world of difference between opt-in and opt-out.
Ubuntu wants to collect more diagnostic data February 16, 2018 https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/16/ubuntu-wants-to-collect-more-diagnostic-data/
Well, Ubuntu has always been nosier than most Linux distros Debian does have a package-reporting option. But it's opt-in at install.
Im curious as to why do this now after so many years of existence or could it be simply following the pack.I do hope this "trend" does not become fashionable right across the linux spectrum.
it would seem microsoft is the trend setter then.If i recall correctly opensuse had a similar problem years back.
Long ago I remember reading about the fracas Ubuntu caused with privacy issues so I thought it was THE nosiest. Not that I'm up with whats going on with all the distros but this is offputting to those looking to move to Linux for better security and privacy with the continual Windows and Mac nightmares. Anyway this is just proof that once the camel gets it's nose in the door, it'll push to get in.
Hmmm ... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/02/ubuntu-data-collection-opt-out Canonical’s desktop team lead Will Cooke explains more about the initiative in an email to the Ubuntu development mailing list, where he writes: “We want to be able to focus our engineering efforts on the things that matter most to our users, and in order to do that we need to get some more data about sort of setups our users have and which software they are running on it,” Since few (if any) users would choose to opt-in to share this sort of data, Canonical is making participation in the scheme entirely opt-out. ~ op cit The data Ubuntu says it wants to collect about your system sounds rather innocuous. It will include: Which version of Ubuntu you’re installing (including which flavour) Whether you have network connectivity Hardware stats, including CPU, RAM, GPU, etc Your device vendor (e.g., Dell, Lenovo, etc) Your country How long your install took to complete Whether you have auto login enabled Your disk layout Whether you chose to install third party codecs Whether you chose to download updates during install I don't think it's quite tinfoil hat time yet, and if it does actually improve Ubuntu I wouldn't complain.
Yes way! (Sorry, couldn't resist that) I'm guessing no one would voluntarily opt in so it's the only way Canonical could induce people to cooperate lol.
I keep telling myself ... Canonical have good intentions ... over and over again. I may even start to believe it.
So how is country relevant re installation and usage issues? Yes, and it's underhanded to obscure data collection by making it out-out.
I disagree I think a lot of people would opt-in. Not as many as forced opt-out & I'm sure hiding that opt-out option under 5 or 6 click throughs (guessing about 5 or 6). But I guess 10-20% installers just blindly select every option.
If nothing else, an adequate description of the slippery slope .... and so it goes. And coercion/force is funny? @mirimir Agree about relevance and underhandedness. Anyone who values their privacy sure wouldn't opt-in to this nosiness and few things are as irritating as buried "options".
It's not the first time Ubuntu/Canonical accused of data collection, some of you probably remember several years ago when they started to adopt Amazon affiliation and Richard Stallman criticized it. I don't agree, you guys have to note most of Ubuntu users are not like yours. I think Ubuntu is the most popular distro for those who came from Windows. It have been very user friendly out of box (at least from 12.04 or so) as you know and there're many online resources. So, I assume vast majority of Ubuntu user base is technically noobs who don't toggle anything and I believe it has sth to do w/ this data collection (so called user experience). And as already noted, it's still much better than MS or Google. If you care privacy, you can just go other distros and there're plenty good ones privacy wise. I think it's not so bad there's a distro focusing on usability and noob, otherwise they might never come to Linux world. Just my 2 cent.
