µBlock, a lean and fast blocker

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by gorhill, Jun 23, 2014.

  1. nicolaasjan

    nicolaasjan Registered Member

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    Indeed, e.g. in Developer Edition you get this:

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  2. n8chavez

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    Is it advisable to use something like NoScript in conjunction with uBo in Chrome/Vivaldi. I know there's no need for redundancy in Firefox. But I also know that uBo is less effective in Chrome. Should those two be paired?
     
  3. Jan Willy

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    Didn't you ask something like that on malwaretips about a year ago? View
    https://malwaretips.com/threads/ubo-or-adguard-noscript.117425/post-1005810
     
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  4. summerheat

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    This wiki site describes why uBO works best in Firefox. I don't see how Noscript could mitigate these drawbacks of Chromium-based browsers.
     
  5. deugniet

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    From the Wiki: Do NOT use uBO with any other content blocker. uBO performs as well as or better than most popular blockers. Other blockers can prevent uBO's privacy or anti-blocker-defusing features from working correctly.

    Source: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock
     
  6. n8chavez

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    They are somewhat similar, but not the same. That was about pairing either Adguard for Windows with either uBo or NoScript. What I'm asking now is if uBo and noscript can work together. A year can bring a lot of changes, especially in anything based on Chromium with mv3 coming.
     
  7. Jan Willy

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    Given the conversation on malwaretips I didn't expect your question about pairing uBO and NoScript, so in my eyes rather superfluous. The answers from Summerheat and Deugniet were predictable.
     
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  8. Brummelchen

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    theats why in did not mention dev or nightly
    That switch has reason to be usable in ESR, Developer and Nightly, no where else.
    ESR is special because it do not target regular end users. in most cases enterprise environments are supervised and limited.
    thats offside to the use of ESR in win7/8, mozilla wants to keep such users and offer them a transition time while upgrading to win10/11 within the next year. esr 115 run out autumn 2024.
    currently adguard MV3 is recommended, if MV3.
    but you should not mix up adguard/windows with any other blocker in browser - if - if adguard has no switch to turn filtering of for chosen apps. adguard/android has this ability, firefox/ublock is excluded.
    may work but as gorhill wrote they work complete different and may effect each other to the bad. i wont use noscript, in fact the default settings in ublock are very nice. and, many lists dont mean raise blocking.
     
  9. summerheat

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    I've activated Disable restrictions globally (dangerous) and leave only the XSS Filter and Cross-tab Identity Leak Protection enabled. However, I hardly ever see them in action.
     
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    Those last two settings aren't possible on chromium based browsers.
     
  12. summerheat

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    Sure, but it's an additional protection which doesn't hurt.

    I know - I've been using uBO's hard mode for ages. That's probably why I hardly ever see this protection in Noscript in action. Nevertheless, a nooped 3rd-party site can theoretically perform an XSS attack. Again, it's probably not very relevant with ubO's hard or medium mode but it's an additional protection that doesn't hurt.
     
  13. summerheat

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    I haven't checked that - but who's using those browsers anyhow? :shifty::D
     
  14. Jan Willy

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    People for whom NS is even less meaningful than for FF-users. ;)
     
  15. Brummelchen

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    it adds nothing in your case. and as another linked thread it makes ublock do not work at its best.
    i do, Edge. but Edge has Adguard MV3 installed. but this and that are no matter of this thread here.
     
  16. summerheat

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    I don't know if you're referring to my first or my second statement. And I don't understand your second sentence.
     
  17. Brummelchen

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    you added NS to uBo because of XSS and another feature. both are futile using uBo and all micropatches for your cpu (amd dont need such patches, only intel - patches are distributed with windows updates), so NS is futile for your needs*

    *ofc you can block such micropatches which is not clever.
     
  18. summerheat

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    First of all, uBO doesn‘t block 3rd-party scripts by default, it blocks them with Dynamic Filtering in Medium or Hard Mode (which I‘ve been using for years unlike most users here) - unless specific domains are nooped. In this case scripts from these domains are allowed unless an appropriate filter blocks them or you block scripts generally with the per-site switch. I agree that the probability that a legitimate 3rd-party site performs an XSS attack is low. But saying that uBO always protects against XSS is a sweeping argument at best. And needless to say that Dynamic Filtering is not available in the MV3 version at all.

    No, I don‘t block them, of course. But there were examples in the past where micropatches were not fully reliable against those new threats, hence a second line of defense is not so bad. Although I don‘t know how effective it is.
     
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  19. Brummelchen

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    you create very few options were possible, infact you need to match infected/prepped pages for this which is somehow not really possible for regular users.
    thats right, but investigating into settings you will find options very fast to avoid XSS.
    third-party is blocked here, but not for all, set this to grey (noop) will resolve issues NOT to use noscript. trust me, try it. currently noscript has no benefits for you.

    i have seen a lot of combinations of uBo with NS, ABP, Ghostery, Badger and some other which made no sense. each of those can be replaced with uBo - uBO is really superior to it all. thats no lie, thats a fact. the problem is that some users, included you, do not trust this private supported extensions at all. the next problem, those never tried a single solution against ads or scripts. this thread has not 304 pages because of using other solutions beside, its about to find solutions about issues. another extension is NOT helpful! uBo is not a set and forget solution, it need adjustments. most users of uBo are not aware of using additional or other lists. we can clarify such questions and find a solution. NS is no solution, its a ran-away due lack of knowledge.

    for me, i use a lot of pre-defined lists and 4 additional list. i entered sites you never heard of, good and bad. and in fact i uses uBo (and nothing else) for over a decade now and nothing happend.

    if you wont rely on experience, then do it like you want to, or leave it. pretty simple. there were two answers which pointed it out about uBo and others, you are alone. any further questions?
     
  20. Stupendous Man

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    1.52.0 is now available for Firefox.
     
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    Fantastic, thanks for info. Peeked in the uBO dashboard and indeed it had leveled up to 1.52.0. :thumb:
     
  22. summerheat

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    I have no idea what you‘re trying to say. Sorry.

    I have no idea what you‘re trying to say.

    Regarding the rest of your post: instead of presenting specific arguments against what I wrote above you‘re presenting unspecific gibble gabble. That leads to nowhere. I‘m out.
     
  23. Rasheed187

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    Guys, I have a new weird problem on ad.nl, which came out of the blue. But all of a sudden I can't see the topbar anymore, with the news categories (Binnenland, Buitenland), when uBlock is enabled, any ideas? And it's not the My filters list, I already checked that.

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  24. Jan Willy

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    When I click on NIEUWS or on a news item on the site I see Binnenland, Buitenland. How simple can it be.

    Edit: it has nothing to do with uBO, so totally OT. If I were you, I should delete my post.
     
  25. Rasheed187

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    Not so fast, as soon as I enable uBlock, the bar with news categories disappears, so it's definitely related to uBlock, at least on my machine.
     
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