U.S. To Introduce Draconian Anti-Piracy Censorship Bill

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  1. lotuseclat79

    lotuseclat79 Registered Member

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    U.S. To Introduce Draconian Anti-Piracy Censorship Bill.

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  2. Hungry Man

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    On the one hand I think it's terrible that the government is censoring the web like this.

    On the other hand... they pretty much have a right to. If there were a private building be used to make meth they'd break down a door and seize that building. This isn't all that different.

    The question is... where does it stop? Will sites like Warez-bb be shut down despite not hosting anything? Surfthechannel.com?

    I wouldn't be surprised.
     
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    From New version of PROTECT IP Act may target legal sites:
     
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    Ugh, pretty much where I say "This is an nissue."
     
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    NSA is fighting this, I bet.
     
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    So are ad networks, Facebook, Google and many other powerhouses. Governments, behind closed doors, will fight it too, for various reasons. You can't possibly do what they want to do without having numerous things blow up in your face. Also, intelligence agencies need Facebook, Youtube and so on. hell, your 2011 cop on the street needs them. They are trained in using theses services and trained in getting information from them.

    Once again the U.S is throwing the baby out with the bath water. They're getting very, very expert at that. When you let organizations outside of the actual government gain power and have a hand in law-making, these sorts of things are what you get. This might pass, but not in its current form. There will be loopholes galore in it, and the paranoid crowd, for once in their life, will be thanking the "evil" NSA and other behind the scenes people for it.
     
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    The U.K is actually ahead of the U.S in these matters. However, the link you posted Dave, is discussing a single site. While I certainly don't think it's meaningless, it is far more "trivial", if you can call such matters trivial, than the insane and unworkable plan the U.S is cooking up (just in time for elections too).
     
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    Yes these government proposals Stateside are looking a bit dubious from my side of the pond as well. Unfortunately, British governments tend to be highly influenced by whatever legislation the US government tries enforce.
     
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    Agreed, they're very much "bosom buddies" in matters like this.
     
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    U.S. government also a villain in piracy act story - CNet
     
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    "Governments must not censor internet, says William Hague" ~ ~ The Guardian

    Sounds like vague hot air to me Hague ...
     
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    Lmao! The U.K complaining about it when they all but started it :D
     
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    Yeah, I could see the irony in it. The sad & rather scary thing is that Hague doesn't. :eek:
     
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    I'm sure he does, but hopes people don't..and they likely won't, save for people like you that see straight through it. What we've got here is a big spoon full of hypocrisy.
     
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    It's always the same with his lot, everything they say is oddly ambivalent; like a double-edged sword. As Orwell would have defined it ~ Newspeak.

    ... & it's a big spoon!
     
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    You know what's beautiful about this whole thing (in a completely screwed up way)? The petition to oppose it is online, and the government says if it gets 25k sigs by November 30, it will respond to the issue. If that wasn't cute enough, guess when the bill hits the floor for discussions.. November 16th. I know this administration well, if they can manage to pass it (which will, imho, be damned hard as I stated before), it'll be discussed, voted on, and signed at warp speed. Result: November 30th: "25 thousands signatures..well, we understand that there are concerns, and a lot of misinformation out there. However, we believe, *yada yada yada*...it's already passed".
     
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    As disgusting and immoral as this bill and the entire "intellectual property" concept is, the sad part is that the vast majority of this content isn't worth seeing, hearing, or using, let alone stealing or pirating. IMO, it's almost like suing you for what you find when searching trash cans.

    Of course this doesn't cover the other half of their motives, just plain censorship.
     
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    That is the sad truth, actually. If they're paranoid I'll pirate anything from this decade, they can sleep peacefully. What little I like of movies and music since 2000, I already own. Anything earlier than that, I either own still or indeed did get from the net. Sorry, RIAA, I'm not paying 13 bucks or more for bands that are either dead or doing the obligatory "Let's relive the glory years" Japanese tours. Besides, half the stuff I own either can't be bought again (50's/60's vinyl, VHS tapes, books), or is astronomical in price if you can find them.
     
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    Same here. If it was completely up to me, there wouldn't be a TV or DVD in this house. As for other online media like music downloads, I can count the ones I liked on one hand, and all of them are old. After creating a near bulletproof setup for hiding their existence, I tossed the P2P apps a few years ago. Nothing worth downloading.

    They don't have to worry about me pirating Windows 7 or 8, or any of Adobe's bloatware. They couldn't get me to use them if they gave them to me.
     
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    I'm not going to worry about them finding any of my downloads. They only seem to care if it's Justin Beiber or the ever present "Hollywood political statement" movies. Both of which wouldn't last as long in my house than a half-melted snowball being thrown into the fiery depths of Hades would
     
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    ""They don't have to worry about me pirating Windows 7 or 8, or any of Adobe's bloatware""

    I second that!!!!!!!:D :D :D
     
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