Thoughts on berly

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  1. Bruce99

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    What do you think about Beryl ?
     
  2. Pedro

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    Most interesting. It's an alternative to kde, gnome etc.? Highly customizable?
    The screenshots are very interesting:thumb:
    Do you use it?
     
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    Re: Thoughts on beryl

    I use it on ubuntu 6.10 and love it.
     
  4. ErikAlbert

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    This is too futuristic for me, The 3D Desktop Cube was too much for me.
    I still have problems with multiple 2D Windows on my desktop.
     
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    It seems as you can choose what you want.
     
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    yip, I digg it :)
     
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    i use beryl and really like it. it's still very early days so in time there will be lots more useful things, and as it's open source there will be lots more things than windows and macs opengl stuff put together, it was just updated a few days ago so it's even better then most of the pictures and videos showing it :cool: here's a video -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eDI4-IH58s
    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=beryl

    you can enable/disable as little, or much, as you like. i've disabled the wobbly windows, also there are lots of settings for most of the options, so, for example, if you don't like the way programs maximise and minimise you can make it use a different effect.

    here's my desktop -

    http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/4792/screenshotxv7.th.png

    http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4162/screenshot1ai8.th.png

    http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1994/screenshotdesktopft5.th.png

    it has lots of GUI effects with transparent stuff too, all to do with openGL which is somekind of graphics standard or protocol that all the major OSes are using - linux, vista and OSX
     
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    beryl is actually a window manager, whereas gnome and KDE are desktop environments. that means you can replace either the gnome, or KDE, window managers for beryl (gnome uses metacity, KDE uses kwin) and still use both as normal. :)
     
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    excellent! I love my desktop cube.
    I've also been using Compiz for awhile.
     
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    Ok, so there's the X window system, then a window manager(this example), and on top a desktop environment (and beryl can use KDE too)?
    KDE is not only desktop, but there's a KDE window manager?
    TIAo_O
     
  11. ErikAlbert

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    Does it take much time to create such visual effects ?
     
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    I never have used it, but the install is pretty simple, you need a decent graphics card, then all the effects just happen while you work.

    However, I feel that it doesn't really offer anything in terms of productivity for me at all, and my graphics card and computer are 7 years old, so I don't think it would really work on my system (also, I am using OpenBSD so no 3D rendering due to those blobs).

    Dwm makes me very productive and effecient, not to mention it takes up insanely low amounts of ram (under 1 MB :D ), so I don't think I will be switching

    Cheeers,

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    Thanks for the info. I skip this one anyway. I'm educated on sober mainframe terminals, so I'm not a gadget man. These beautiful images would distract me too much in my work and last but not least, I don't have the talent to do something amazing with it. :)
    Cheers too,
     
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    it's very complicated and i don't know much about it. but, there's the graphics card that uses drivers which support the graphics spec openGL. then there's XGL, a composite extension to help X (which was designed for 2D stuff) and the use of buffers to hold everything in memory rather then drawing things straight to the screen. beryl and compiz are composite managers that work with XGL. lol, something like that anyway, i was reading about it yesterday and understood it all perfectly then :ninja:

    but, yes you can use beryl with KDE. it just happens that the level they have implimented this graphics stuff is at the window manager level and KDE can use other window managers then kwin, which it normally uses. window managers just draw things on the screen. KDE uses the qt libs, or toolkit, to style everything. that's all you'll get out of me because i really know next to nothing about it all lol
     
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    Hello,
    I have several PCs with powerful cards but I don't see any merit in using 3D visualization on a 2D screen. Besides, I'm not into fancy stuff, no matter how cool it looks. Does not add to productivity - or anything else for that matter. Of course, beats the living daylights out of Vista, which is great.
    Mrk
     
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    I watched someone playing with Beryl and its nice.
    But at the end of the day - beyond the eye candy it does'nt offer any useful functionality for me (especially on a low/old spec machine).

    I do remember spotting a glitch with the cube - its done by grabbing screen shots and can actually end up out of date to what is currently displayed on a desktop.

    But overal I am impressed with this and like the way it fits in with KDE and Gnome.
     
  18. Bruce99

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    heh, seems beryl is pretty well loved :)

    ... if only it was supported on Slackware :(
     
  19. ErikAlbert

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    Another question : can you actually USE these beautiful things, like the cube for instance or is it just decoration. For instance can I click on something to open it and can I turn around the cube to click on something on the back side. :D
     
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    Yep, it is fully functional and is not just drawing stuff up that looks cool :D

    Cheers,

    Alphalutra1
     
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    What do you mean o_O

    It needs a 2.6.* kernel, xorg, a graphics driver for your card, etc. It will work on any distribution.

    Just type in something to the effect of
    Code:
    slackware beryl
    in google, and I received various how-tos amoung the first couple of searches (some even from the beryl wiki)

    Cheers,

    Alphalutra1
     
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    one of the recent linux magazines had the Sabayon distro as a cover disc as a livecd, beryl was included on it and worked perfectly with my nvidia card :cool:
     
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    Sabayon is nice, with beryl as default.
    Sabayon distro-'The official Beryl distro, offers beryl installed by default'.
    More Beryl distros, instructions.
     
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    Knoppix has it too? I wouldn't expect that. Is Knoppix a complete and well supported (updates, etc) distribution?
     
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    Knoppix has a lite and maxi edition in English and German.
     

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