The unofficial Shadow Defender Support Thread.

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Cutting_Edgetech, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. Acadia

    Acadia Registered Member

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    If I understand SP correctly (and that is a BIG if) your entire system is completely frozen and if your AV is on when you activate SP, it stays on as if nothing has happened because as far as your c:drive is concerned nothing HAS happened (everything is being Shadowed). Your AV, and also ALL of your c:drive programs, will continue to function as usual because in reality nothing has changed. When you reboot they will just be reverted back to the moment you activated SP. Very powerful program, use with caution. (And also so simple to use which make it all the more dangerous to those who don't completely understand it).

    Long story made short: you don't need to change a thing to your AV or any program, just use them and pretend that you are not even using SP (unless you want to upgrade any of those progames to a new version).
     
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  2. sdmod

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    I have various PCs and a laptop. My main pc...I still use Windows XP whilst I still can with Shadow Defender Sandboxie and Anti Virus running.
    To XP users just a reminder that not all the options are available such as Registry Exclusion List in Shadow Defender.
    On my other PCs and Laptop I have Windows 7 and Windows 10 but with fast startup disabled as Tony (Shadow Defender developer) advised.
    I have Shadow Defender and Sandboxie running on all...I just wanted to mention those missing Shadow Defender options to XP users who might be reading this thread.
    Regarding Anti Virus. I never make any adjustments to it and just ignore it when I am going into Shadow Mode...I've never noticed any bad results.
    One thing I'd like to mention. On XP last night I was doing some video editing in Shadow Mode and with a heavily filled drive. I noticed a bit of a struggle and got a bit slow and sticky on reboot after Shadowed session.
    After a couple of a couple of re-boots and a defrag (in unshadowed mode) things came right again
    I think that a drive with plenty of free space is best for large file operation. That's just a thought.

    Patrick (sdmod)
     
  3. imdb

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    light virtualization is not that reliable. vm's are much more robust. sd's commit feature doesn't play well with large files and/or many small files. and memory dumps are saved in case of a bsod. that's not good. and unlike deep freeze, it doesn't prevent system time changes. its memory management is not good at all.
     
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  4. Osaban

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    Thanks bjm, this is very interesting indeed, as I 've never really thought there was any active interaction between SD and the AV when entering and exiting shadow mode.

    I've been using Avira Pro and Kaspersky I.S, and have noticed in the past that upon rebooting out of shadow mode sometimes (1 out 10 instances) some of Avira's modules where turned off, and likewise Kaspersky's protection would be paused. My reaction and solution was to exit shadow mode and shutdown rather than exit shadow mode and reboot.

    It works, but your post has clarified that there is definitely erratic behaviour during these operations, nothing serious but worth knowing about. I've never had issues entering shadow mode therefore the problem exists during reboots. Thanks.
     
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  5. Osaban

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    Not my experience since I've started using SSD. I usually commit with the right click menu up to 10 GB a day (files are often as big as 5-6 GB) and never had an issue.

    When I was using a hard disk drive (HDD), I had all sorts of problems sometimes BSODs, sudden unexpected reboots, it got so bad that I had resolved to transfer files directly to USB drives as the commit feature was too unreliable. I believe this was due in hindsight to my HDD malfunctioning, and beware, sometimes it takes more than a year for an HDD to die. My experience suggests that if one has serious problems with SD, one should check the condition of the hard drive with proper tools.
     
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  6. imdb

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    it's not installed on any of my rigs. i tested it on a system with a ssd when there was a giveaway.
     
  7. Osaban

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    To each his own,whatever works for you.
     
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