The unofficial Shadow Defender Support Thread.

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Cutting_Edgetech, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. monkeybutt

    monkeybutt Registered Member

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    I stopped using it also,just can't be trusted. Shame really:(
     
  2. moontan

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    why?

    the "old" .325 version still works very good.
     
  3. Rico

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    It seems that a new version is available, or an update! Is Tony back or how did SD get updated?

    I have Panda Cloud & SD, SD needs to load before Panda, in order for SD to work. Current work around is disable Panda then enter Shadow Mode, then re-enable Panda. Is there a way to get SD to load before Panda?

    Thanks
    Rico

    Note I've been using SD on 4 machines for many years, IMO SD is bulletproof! Before going on the net, be in Shadow Mode, and don't exclude stuff. With that & imaging back up routine. I don't believe anything else is necessary!
     
  4. Boost

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    Why? I've got SD and it's been bulletproof on my 32-bit XP. If I so desire,I'll use it on my CUSTOM BUILT 32-bit Windows 7 PC,with no reservations.

    You guys get to caught up into things sometimes.
     
  5. moontan

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    it got "updated" but by whom, nobody knows.
    nobody answers e-mails at their end.

    stay away from the "updated" version.
     
  6. Triple Helix

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    I like to know for sure if your claim is true about using SD on SDD's? Can anyone else comment?

    TIA,

    TH
     
  7. CyberMan969

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    Hi TH, I just read this info a while ago on this very forum:
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=282678&highlight=TRIM
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=289292

    Also here:
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk

    Personally I wouldn't take a chance but hey, I'm quite paranoid lol. I'd like to know for sure too. Has anyone tried it?
     
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  8. Triple Helix

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    Good info thanks! I would like to know for sure myself as at this point I don't have SD installed until further investigation and if more info shows up! ;)
    Here are a couple more: http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=91322
    http://www.mushkingames.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=18051&start=0

    TH
     
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  9. PJC

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    Agreed. :thumb:
     
  10. Rico

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    Mootan -Why stay away from the updated version?
     
  11. CyberMan969

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    Hi Rico, with Tony gone for ages now we simply don't know who is in control of the company. They haven't responded to any communication attempts made by registered users of the software, and they just keep selling the product silently without any support. NOT a good thing especially for a security-related application.

    The new version was released without a changelog or any info whatsoever regarding what was changed. Then, some guy posted in this forum assuring us that he knows Tony and that the new version is legit with a newly certified SD driver, but refusing to give more info on who controls the product, or shed light into Tony's disappearance. Another website has popped up too (shadowdefender.org). They sell a strange version with no distinction between x32 and x64 versions, they just sell a file called simply Setup.exe. And it looks like that whoever is in control of the com site also controls the org site because when you download the Setup.exe file from the org site the download itself originates from the com site. It all looks very suspect and many users believe that the product has been hijacked.

    Last known good version is v1.1.0.325, last safe beta is v1.1.0.326. If you look at previous posts on this thread you'll find safe links to these versions. I use my good old .325, a file that was last modified on ‎26 ‎February ‎2010. Personally I wouldn't download anything from the com or org sites, at least until the situation has been cleared.
     
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  12. Cutting_Edgetech

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    Because Tony is still MIA, and noone can say for sure where the new version came from. They also never released a chane log for the new version. How do we know what was added to the code if they want even be so profesional as to release a change log? To be quite honest at this point it would not really make any difference to me if they did release a change log because I wouldn't trust its validity anyways.
     
  13. Rico

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    Well, I updated a couple machine with the latest version, so far I can't tell any difference. I still have the installer packages, from previous known good 'with change logs', ... It does not seem logical that a newer version, is suspect as this would sour any future sales. Like there still accepting money right? We can speculate all day long about Tony, & his group. If something bad happens regarding the new version, I'll post back (i have imaging BU's) so Rico's the canary in the mine
     
  14. CyberMan969

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    Good luck with the trial Rico. I have an older laptop which I use solely for software testing and I have also tried the 331 version for about 3 weeks without any apparent ill effects. Still, I wouldn't use it on my 'proper' systems, but hey, as I said before I'm pretty paranoid! :D

    As you said we can speculate all day, but the indications so far have been pretty bad... Like other users in this forum, I also believe that there should be transparency between the makers of any software and their paying customers, even more so when the software in question is security-related. In this case there has been no transparency at all and no e-mails from customers have been answered. The ...shadowey people behind SD are just too silent; they just take the money and offer no support whatsoever, and this is just not good enough. This is a very shoddy business practice to say the least and I can't help but feel that these people - whoever they are - are gonna make a quick killing out of SD for before it becomes outdated and obsolete. We already know that there are some dog trojans that can bypass the SD protection; if the program is not picked up by a serious programmer/developer who will add anti-execute features to it and update it regularly to counteract new malicious code, then I feel SD will ultimately die out. It would be a sad ending for a great piece of code...
     
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  15. Osaban

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    Do you have a source or test to link for this statement? I believe it will happen, but I thought that so far SD hasn't been breached.
     
  16. CloneRanger

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    That would be icing on the cake but using a seperate AntiExe with SD is about as about as good as you can get, & available right now in various flavours :)

    Yeah i'd like to see that too :thumb:
     
  17. moontan

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    beside SRP and the Faronics product, what else is there?
     
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    I will remind only this post from last month...it's enough form me (#213)
    and info from Bierni (#230)
     
  20. Cutting_Edgetech

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    There's Returnil. I believe it would be my next alternative.
     
  21. Gurk

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    Password recovery

    Hello, I have recently inherited a Win2003 server with SD installed on it - but the password was never documented. I have looked through the thread and searched online but I have not seen a way to recover passwords. As it is a server I really hope there is another recourse besides rebuilding from scratch.

    I appreciate any comments either way as it is better than not knowing...:doubt:

    Thanks, Allan
     
  22. Cutting_Edgetech

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    Yes, i would also love to see your source. I have never seen any proof of any malware able to bypass SD.
     
  23. Osaban

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    If by Faronics you mean Anti-Executable it is excellent with XP OSs (I have it on 2 notebooks) unfortunately it hasn't worked well with Vista and presumably Win7 (last I heard from Faronics, they said that the next update should be fine with Vista and Win7). As far as I know it hasn't been bypassed yet by malware.

    http://www.faronics.com/en/Products/AntiExecutable/AntiExecutableCorporate.aspx

    There is another application, Executable Lockdown from HorizonDataSys which is similar to Anti-Executable, I have no experience about it other than HorizonDataSys isn't the best in terms of support.

    http://www.horizondatasys.com/169602.ihtml

    They don't come cheap: AE is 45$ and EL 39$ (one off payment until next upgrade, but the applications will always be active).
     
  24. moontan

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    i think it was Buster if i remember correctly who tested light virtualization apps a while ago.

    i think SD was the only one that passed all the tests.
    if it's been breached lately that is info we're all interested in knowing about.

    on another note, tnx folks about the info on AE apps!
     
  25. Cutting_Edgetech

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    If your interested in a good AE then I suggest you try Appguard from BlueRidge Networks. It offers very good protection from all types of threats. Its a very good combination with SD! I've been using it for a long time, and its very easy to use. -http://www.blueridgenetworks.com/products/appguard.php
     
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