the only version of Mint i did not try until today...

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  1. moontan

    moontan Registered Member

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    was XFCE.

    i thought because it was 'lightweight' that it was gonna be uglier than the other Mint distros.
    so i never gave it a try until today.

    XFCE feels and IS faster on my machine than all the other Mint flavors.
    finally, a major distro that feels as fast as Windows, if not faster.

    and i like that the XFCE 'Start' menu is not set in concrete, like Unity, Cinnamon and Metro.

    and it does look pretty damn nice! :thumb:
     
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    I agree. Mint (lts) + xfce is a winner. :thumb:
     
  3. Wild Hunter

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    The problem is, Linux Mint XFCE seems to be a second-class citizen. They still didn't release Mint 14 (or 14.1) XFCE
     
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    well, the big new features of Nadia are updates to both MATE and Cinnamon.
    nothing really exciting for us XFCE/KDE/LMDE/etc users in there

    Linux Mint 14 Nadia MATE/Cinnamon new features:
    * MATE 1.4
    * Cinnamon 1.6
    * MDM
    * Software Manager
    * System Improvements
    * Artwork Improvements
    * Upstream Components
     
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  5. Wild Hunter

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    I just read that Linux Mint XFCE is now a rolling release. Forget my post lol
     
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    Rolling release, really ? i am interested do you have a link ?
     
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    well, it's working mighty fine as it is so as long as it's supported for the next couple of years i'm happy.

    this is working better than i expected so i formated my (secondary internal drive) data drive to ext 4.

    so i don't have to boot into Windows just to defrag it once in awhile. :cautious:
     
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    The cool thing about Mint XFCE is that it's based on Debian. One thing that's kinda weird though, they have update packs that come out every few months instead of the constant trickle of updates as they're available. Lots of arguing about this on Mint's forums.

    I used Mint XFCE for about a year with Wheezy repos, was fast and stable. At the time, it was definitely taking a back seat to the main Mint releases. The biggest concern was how Mint Debian would be put on hold in the time leading up to an Ubuntu based release of Mint. Other than that, I don't remember any severe, open issues off the top of my head. XFCE and Debian are pretty low maintenance.
     
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    Oh hey...there's a Maya xfce. I just noticed you're talking about that, not Mint Debian. heh.
     
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    there are both debian and maya base on ubuntu so choose what ever you like :D
     
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    loving it a lot so far.

    i just learned to install GTK themes and icons so i could get rid of the basic minty green theme.
    just posted an updated screenie in the Screenshot thread.

    just bloody awesome! :thumb:
     
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    Very cool! :thumb:
    I´m tempted to change since i find Ubuntu to run a little bit slow (but maybe that´s normal because i was used to Bodhi Linux).
     
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    it's almost as fast as Bodhi, i think the minimum system requirement is 384 megs of Ram vs 256 for Bodhi, if i recall.
    way faster on my machine than MATE, Cinnamon, Unity, KDE etc...

    it's faster than all the distros i have tried so far, save for Puppy and Bodhi.
    the apps included in XFCE are the same you would find on MATE/Cinnamon.

    it's way more customizable than Cinnamon/Metro/Unity.
     
  17. inka

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    some of the xfce 4.10 packages are still absent from debian repositories (and) so are still absent from LMDE

    The other mint releases, downstream from ubuntu, have access to xfce 4.10 packages from ubuntu repos.

    We're not missing anything (well, not much) still using xfce v4.8 vs v4.10
    and, as it stands, v4.10 is a step backwards (for me) because it "breaks" xfapplet
    (several of the xfce4-panel plugins I use are reliant on xfapplet)

    Looking back across the past year, the devs referring to LMDE as a "rolling release" has become an unmet promise. Only four "update packs" for LMDE have been released since Sept2011.

    Manual deletion? (asking because, as I recall, I found weird {dumb} dependencies of mint-core, preventing uninstallation of mint themes n components)

    many (too many, imo) services are enabled by default in k/x/ubuntu. After disabling unneeded services, I found xubuntu 12.10 to be essentually "as fast as" mint LMDE xfce. When you're distrohopping xfce variants, and comparing "memory footprint" be sure to compare apples-to-apples ~~ understand that, cumulatively, extra pre-activated panel widgets can add quite a bit of overhead. Also, take note which kernel (version, and PAE vs non-PAE) is present in each of the distros you're comparing.
     
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    unka:

    no, i just left them in there.

    i was just getting tired of the green minty look.
     
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    I've disabled Bluetooth, but can you suggest other services that can be disabled as well?

    TIA!

    Regards,
    François
     
  20. moontan

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    if you don't need those you can remove:
    Mono (Tomboy Notes and Banshee needs Mono but you can remove those 2 as well)
    Samba
    Java
    Iced Tea
     
  21. inka

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    @fblais
    install "bum" (boot up manager) and examine which processes are checkmarked to autostart. bum displays a verbose description for each process to help guide you, but
    anything that's set to autostart and you don't know what it is... ought to web search and find out, eh?

    A decision to remove/uninstall is a separate consideration. The immediate goal in unchecking/disabling unneeded services is to speed startup and reduce baseline system memory usage.
     
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