The Mojave Experiment

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  1. HURST

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    http://www.mojaveexperiment.com/
    (requires flash)
     
  2. ambient_88

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  3. Firebytes

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    Were they just judging it on its looks?
     
  4. AKAJohnDoe

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    I ordered my most recent laptop with Vista Home Premium on it. I admit I did have some frustrations with making it the way I wanted it, as I have with every new OS I have ever used. But I have always made my own mind up rather than taking another's word for fact.

    I have been running Vista exclusively since June of 2007.



    FWIW, the PC operating systems I have used includes: DOS (3(.x), 5(.x), 6(.x)); OS/2 (V1 through V3); Windows (2(.x), 3(.x), 95, 98(and 98SE)), NT (3(.x), 4(.x)), 2000, XP, and Vista. I even had ME, just never got around to installing it.
     
  5. ambient_88

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    May 2007 here ;)
     
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    High Five! I would have been there earlier, too, but was in the hospital for most of April and recovering at home after that.

    I take it you are satisfied with Vista as well?
     
  7. ambient_88

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    Yeah, I'm liking it. :thumb:
     
  8. midway40

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    Feb. '07 here. I had preordered an OEM from NewEgg so I got it a few days after it was officially released.

    Never looked back :)
     
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    I'll say don't be fooled because Vista IS really a bad OS!

    How many copies have they sold yet in North America? I suppose not much!

    Btw, I prefer the Philadelphia Experiment ;)
     
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    Purchased the Business edition upgrade in March of 2007 and finally upgraded in November after getting a new (~ 40 USD) video card. Have been running the system 24/7 except for shutdowns during bad weather and it has been stable.

    But... there are still issues I have encountered even after the SP1 upgrade:

    1) File transfers are glacial
    2) Vista "looses" its internet connection at random times when connected to a router at the same time XP systems are connected even though IPV6 is disabled. Only recourse is to hard cycle the router and DSL modem to get the connection working again.

    Other than these two "nits" I like Vista but hold off recommending it until/unless these two issues are finally resolved...

    Mike
     
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    Compared to Win XP, it's rather slow so I can't recommend aswell.

    Probably Windows 7 (codename Blackcomb or Vienna whatever) will be a bit better, who know!
     
  12. AKAJohnDoe

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    Well, this thread is too old to be replied to, but is appears that not much has changed since January of 2008: There is still a vocal group of Vista naysayers, many of whom have apparently never used Vista for any period of time; A flock of sheep repeating what they hear without having taken the time or effort to find out for themselves; A segment that has tried Vista, and for whatever reason (inadequate hardware, resistance to change, desire to complain, insufficient time allocated to fully comprehend the scope of the changes) decided to not stay with Vista; And a segment that is using Vista, every day, without encountering insurmountable problems or experiencing terror.


    Happy Computing.
     
  13. ambient_88

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    How so? It's easy to say it's bad...
     
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    You certainly have very strong arguments supporting your statement! On the other hand I'll tell you why I like Vista: Visually the best Windows, very safe and stable, speed? Yes it isn't faster than XP, but when XP is overloaded with several programs it either slows down or crashes whereas Vista (at least on my computer) doesn't slow down at all.

    When the next Windows OS will be ready, I'll be very happy to change, not because Vista is bad, but simply because it's the latest.
     
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    I have been using VISTA HP since Nov. of 2006. No, I am not usually an "early adopter", but I needed a new computer at that time.

    In the beginning, it was VERY FRUSTRATING....I think I even posted some things here previously.
    But I think a lot really has changed. Software and drivers are available now, so the system is rock-stable and lightning fast. Of course I have a 2,8 Ghz Dual Core and 4 Gigs of RAM. But I have a similar computer running XP at work, and VISTA is at least as fast.

    So I am not really unhappy with it, and admit that it actually runs quite well. My main concern is "WHY ?"....I will give MS the benefit of the doubt and assume VISTA has better security features. But I really don't see any "improvements" in the OP system, except in the foo-foo aero graphics, which I have turned off anyway.

    My conclusion: VISTA isn't "bad"....it is "good". But there is no reason to switch from XP unless you need a new computer anyway.

    The main problem with VISTA was a marketing problem. They pushed it out the door before it was ready, before other software developers knew how to write code for it, and before drivers were available. As a result, they just gave VISTA and MS a bad name that they may never recover from. That is what arrogance does to big corporations, and why the free-market system sees huge giants fall and new corporations rise quickly, just as MS itself once did to IBM.
     
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    That is so true. But Microsoft is unlikely to fall at this stage. Microsoft rose because there wasn't really a dominant operating system back then.
     
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    I've been using Vista since December, and I've found that its networking interface is much easier to use than XP's. Maybe that is because I am not familiar with networking, but Vista made connecting a SOHO network relatively simple. I could find other computers, share, print, etc. without any headache. With the XP machine, just getting it to find another computer took me ages to figure out.

    - Just my experience.
     
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    Just comparing our desktops with the new laptops we have, which isn't fair since the laptops have from twice to 4 times the RAM and faster processors, but Vista wins at every turn. Reliability and stability, so far, has been as good as XP. Neither of us has had any problems (other than my wife's getting whacked by that rogue antivirus. Can't blame Vista for that).

    Now that we're learning the differences, Vista is almost Apple like as far as being intuitive. It's easier to find things. It's a much more attractive operating system. XP seems primitive looking by comparison.

    I was one of the biggest naysayers against Vista, based on what I'd read and what I was told my a friend who owns a computer sales/repair shop in the next town from us. Even he has begun to change his thinking since SP1 was released.

    I admit that the sole reason we have Vista is, we couldn't get XP on lower end Dell laptops. Now that we've used it, barely a week and a couple of days, they've just about replaced our desktops. Neither of us has even turned the desktops on in a couple of days. We'll keep them and keep XP on them, but they sure won't be overworked.

    I'm not one to have to be on the cutting edge. If what I have on a computer works, and if it does what I need (such as Word97 on my XP machine), then why switch to something newer that doesn't do anything any better? Vista is a great operating system, but there's no need to switch unless you're buying a new computer. Then, if you have a choice, I recommend Vista.
     
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    Doesn't Vista collect more data of the computer ? And isn't there a DRM issue ? (Not sure)
     
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    For as far as I know, EVERY consecutive version of Windows (we could start with 3.x, or MS-DOS !) has been more bloated. Would it really be diffferent this time ? :rolleyes:
     
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    My wife has a number of music CD's she's made from original CD's. She's got them all loaded. I don't know about downloading music from the Internet. I haven't tried, since I prefer silence when I'm working on a computer. Music, to me, is a distraction.
     
  22. ambient_88

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    According to Microsoft, they are going to optimize the kernel of Windows 7. A presentation by a Microsoft employee (forgot his name) showed a preview of Windows 7 using a kernel that used only 25-40 MB of RAM. It didn't have a GUI, however, only a command prompt. Also, the development of Windows 7 is being watched closely by antitrust regulators, so I think adding more features would be difficult for them.
     
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    Yeah I also read about the super-light kernel a few months ago, but the latest news are not so promising...it seems like 7 will be vista+multi-touch screen... will have to wait and see...
     
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    While I am fine with Vista, I really do hope that they will get rid of old technologies, such as the registry, and replace it with new ones.
     
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    All that talk about Vista DRM is 100% pure FUD. It does not report you to the RIAA if you have illegal mp3s, videos, or whatnot. Vista does not convert these files to DRM. By the way, the only thing affected by DRM is Blu-Ray content that requires HDCP, not music files. Vista gives you the ability to play DRM content-nothing more, nothing less. Anyway DRM technology is pretty much a wash-out right now with companies moving away from it so all of this is moot.

    Do a search on "Vista DRM FUD" and you will find plenty of examples such as this and this. I think the FSF (Badvista.org) was the one that started all of this FUD. I cannot understand why it feels threatened by Vista. I guess that could be a form of flattery, lol.
     
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