TeraByte Product Release Thread

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by TheKid7, Aug 19, 2011.

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  1. Brian K

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    Hi Brian

    WHen I took a full image with both hashes yes, when I turn sector hash off then only the xxx.@0. Tried it both ways with same results. When i tried the diff yes based on the xxx.tbi.

    So do I need both hashes on,and I can only take diffs??
     
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  3. Peter2150

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    The other interesting issue was I tried making a USB with IFL and it didn't take my credentials. Put them in when I was asked for then, but they didn't take
     
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    Both hashes for the full image. You only need to select "Use Metadata Hash Files" when creating diffs.
     
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  6. Brian K

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  7. Peter2150

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    Installed it IFW install
     
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  8. Peter2150

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    I am correct then it won't work with Incrementals. Also can I leave both hashes selected.
     
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    I'm slow today.
     
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    ROFL. I also am having one of those days.
     
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  11. Brian K

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    Yes, you can leave both hashes selected. This is essential if you want to create incrementals.

    I've tried the new method with incrementals and it works fine. I've tried it with VSS and it works fine although the "Gathering info" step was much longer than with PHYLock.
     
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    Thanks Brian

    Will test and report back.

    Pete
     
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  13. Peter2150

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    Okay. Base image 17:45 with phylock about 1 minute
    1 incr 19:07 with Phylock about 2 min :10 sec
    2 incrm 14:00 with phylock 30 seconds.

    Is this what I'd expect.
     
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    My full image was created yesterday, 19 GB.

    I just created an incremental based on the full image. Size 540 MB, write time 15 seconds.
    I next created an incremental based on the above incremental. Size 12 MB, write time 4 seconds.
    I next created an incremental based on the above incremental. Size 5 MB, write time 5 seconds.

    On each occasion it took PHYLock around 30 seconds to lock the drive and start the write.
     
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    The net didn't work, but that's okay. On the fast incremental I think it's a conflict with something. Going to play a bit later and give you a full update tomorrow.
     
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  17. Brian K

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    Weird. I tried that IFL folder in the IFW install and there were no problems. I deliberately put in the wrong name and key and it didn't complain.

    I assume we did it the same way. Double click makedisk.exe, Traditional - You have control over options (Custom), etc.
     
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    I did it the same way except I've always done you have control over options(default). This one is okay though as I don't really need it.
     
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  19. Peter2150

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    Okay, I did a test relative to the new version speed. Something on my desktop is causing a conflict which shouldn't be a shock, and it is effecting the speed in windows.

    So I tested off line. Note: I don't use either of the supplied Terabyte off line solutions. I have a USB key which I installed a Win 10PESE build that isn't as much an RE as a stripped down Win 10. This version is cool as it seems to have a good mix of drivers as well as freebie programs. After building the USB Key I simply copied over the Image64.exe, and the ini and log files. Once I boot to the key, I simply go to explorer and then run the image64.exe. Speed of IFW was about the same, but the Image was being taken in 3 seconds, so the VSS, Phylock times were almost 0.

    I set of the defaults, copied the new files to the key, made the base image in windows, and booted to the key. Remember before incrremental times were in the order of 16 minutes. I left the default Phylock, although when IFW started from the key, it didn't show Phylock being used, Imaging started in about 20 seconds.

    Total time from start to seconds: 50 seconds. Now that is a wowser and worth the reboot. Going to take a couple of incrementals, and then of course test restore.

    PS no surprise in a way on the conflict. I can't have Macrium and Shadowprotect installed together. Causees some corruption issues.
     
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    When doing your image from your Win10PESE, unless you're imaging the W10PESE partition itself (and I think you're not), the partition you are imaging is not LOCKED ('cause it's not running Windows at that time) and therefore neither Phylock or VSS requires a lock on the partition being imaged.

    ...and... if you can discover the speed conflict (most likely AV/AM/A<?>... you have such a locked down System that I'm guessing the conflict is there) you are seeing with your LIVE imaging, that would be very useful info for the rest of us "potential" users.
     
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  21. Peter2150

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    Hi Froggie

    I undid most of the security programs to no avail. It could be just having Macrium and IFW installed. I don't know if you remember but if I install Shadow Protect Desktop along with Macrium take images with both I get some strange issues with the Macrium restores. I am guessing that is what it is.

    And yes I am imaging the c: drive from the Win10PESE
     
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  22. oliverjia

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    Pete,

    There is an alternative way of putting IFW in Win10PESE: navigate to C:\Program Files (x86)\TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite, run bartpe.exe. For "PE Builder Type", select "Any Winbuilder Projects's Apps Folder". Point "PE Builder Location" to your Win10PESE folder, e.g, C:\WIN10PESE\Projects\WIN10PESE\Apps. Input name and serial number, check all the boxes below the serial number, and click "OK". Then you can start build the Win10PESE ISO. The script will automatically install IFW in the PE. You can also set IFW to automatically start upon entering PE environment. Only thing is, before you run IFW in WIN10PESE, you need to go to the USB programs folder, manually set IFW.INI file to "Read Only", otherwise IFW will ask for serial numbers for future runs.
     
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  23. Peter2150

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    Interesting, but I don't have Bartpe, or the winpese folder. I didn't build the ISO file, I just downloaded it. So for me building the usb key from the iso I downloaded and copy IFW to it is much easier
     
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  24. Brian K

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    Pete, how are you progressing with IFL? It's faster than IFW offline. I do all my restores with IFL because of the speed. You can build the IFL UFD on any of your computers. Nothing needs to be installed.
     
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