Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by jack76, Jan 21, 2015.
Didn't know that. Pretty cutthroat AV market. Thanks for your feedback.
They were a bunch of downloads from Malware-CleanMX knowing that some would be PUPs I did hit allow a couple of times on the Ten Cent alerts but boy,the 360 install/Ten Cent uninstall was ferociously fast and Rising also ended up being installed.So probably my bad but I still wouldn`t have minded a few more alerts from Ten Cent though.
To be fair not much got by Ten Cent.
Cheers buddy it`s all a bit of fun really.Though usually it`s Baidu that I unwittingly install from CleanMX.
Well I just wanted to see what happen if I tried to download qihoo 360 w/10cent pcm. After what qihoo did to 10cent in china, I'm not surprised! I scanned the same file with MBAM, and Zemana.They both showed qihoo clean.
I wasn`t saying 360 has hidden malware within or not, more the speed of which it got rid of the competition i.e.Ten Cent.
Why not try installing 360 over Ten Cent to see if you can duplicate my scenario ?
I could myself try the reverse,deploy Ten Cent over the top of 360 just see what happens but not at the moment as I`m busy destroying MSE with a malware pack.
Found one test on PCM's official website: Win 10 compatibility test for the 4 chinese AV products: Tencent, Qihoo, Baidu and Kingsoft.
Basicly it shows Tencent as the best one -- self protection working, malware urls and downloads in Spartan detected, etc.
But self protection test -- using Task Manager to terminate the process? Really?
Is there an english version of the pdf ?
Not good if any security program can be terminated via TM.
I didn't find one.
IMO the test was proposed or sponsored by Tencent, like making a compatible version ahead of everyone and let the lab test them.
The test includes the following parts (page 2):
on-demand scan (scan one or multiple known samples)
real-time scan (try to copy and run multiple known samples)
self-protection (open the main gui window of the product and try to terminate the process of the MAIN GUI using Task Manager ----- WTF?)
IE URL Blocking (visit known malware url)
IE Download protection (download known malware url)
Spartan URL Blocking
Spartan Download protection
In addition, if a malware is actually downloaded and detected by real-time scan, it doesn't count in download protection. (Well I don't really get their point, maybe having Yuki to review it could give us more insights).
The test result page contains actual URLs used in url blocking and download protection tests; however I do see the urls used to test Baidu are different...
Result on page 4 is a baseline, just to prove all the functions being tested are working fine in Windows 7 SP1 x86.
Page 5 shows the result on Win 10 TP 10049 x86:
TPCM passed all tests;
Kingsoft failed in real-time scan, self-protection, Spartan URL blocking, Spartan Download protection and IE Download protection;
360 failed in self-protection and Spartan;
Baidu failed in self-protection, Spartan and IE Download.
Page 6 shows x64 result:
TPCM passed all;
Kingsoft result was same with the x86 one;
360 failed in Spartan -- well wow in x64 it passed self-protection;
Baidu same with x86.
Thanks for the info coolcfan.
It is interesting to see how things develop.
I keep thinking that TPCM is a good one to watch for the future.
Actually, I like this AV 10cent. As others have already alluded, it is quite light when not using the Avira engine. 10cent gets overtly paranoid with anything qihoo, understandably so in my view. And based on test data I've seen 10cent has been steadily improving. I agree that it is definitely one to watch.
As Frank stated above, thanks for the detailed info on Tencent PCM Coolcfan.
One to keep an eye on.
Likewise I agree with aztony about it feeling light which is always a good thing imo.
Tencent PC Manager 10.4.25642.501
Regarding the latest AV-C file-detection test...
Statement regarding Tencent products in recent Windows tests. After in-depth investigations, certain optimizations have been identified in Tencent products which are clearly designed to improve their ratings in AV-TEST's performance testing.
Just in time:
Tencent PC Manager 10.4.25689.501 (with AVIRA)
Tencent PC Manager (TAV Version) 10.4.25695.501 (without AVIRA)
I just installed the TAV version of the new release on my Windows 10 laptop, as it's been a few weeks since I last used PC Manager. I ran a quick scan and it incorrectly identified six system files from Microsoft as trojans and quarantined them. After which I stopped the scan to prevent any more safe files from being quarantined, and then restored the files. After which I uninstalled PC Manager. I did not take enough notice of the settings for PC Manager, as I had meant to configure it to prompt before quarantining files.
I guess it's just an issue with Windows 10 system files, but this is a serious issue.
I was downloading dell driver installers from dell's official website on a machine and half of the downloaded files were TPCM Silent installer. ("Silent" means when you click it, the only prompt will be UAC if enabled)
I've also encountered this several times when I tried to download various AV software installers -- instead of the proper installers, I got TPCM, iQiyi Client, etc.
This should be some kind of ISP level hijacking.
1. Does PC-Manager use the full set of Avira definitions, or just a part of it?
2. How often are definitions updated?
3. Are Avira definitions at the same version, like they are in Avira Antivirus, or hours, or days older?
To answer the first question myself, I just installed Avira-free on a blank WIN7-64.
Avira uses 255 vdf files, while PC-manager only uses 31 Definition files.
That may be sufficient, if Tencent chooses the right category of definitions,
but is misleading, if someone believes, he got Tencent engine plus full Avira engine.
Same with Qihoo 360 and the date on it is 5 weeks ago.
too bad tencent pc manager nolonger has avira engines and it only has inhouse engines.
What are you talking about? Using the latest version here and IT HAS the AVIRA engine:
over a week ago when I installed it, there was no avira and only inhouse engines in the setting and on the gui. strange that yours has it.
There are two versions on tencent web site
With Avira engine
Without Avira engine (TAV Version)
Separate names with a comma.