System image tool in Windows 10 error

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Charyb, Aug 2, 2020.

  1. Charyb

    Charyb Registered Member

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    Since Windows 10 updated to version 2004, I have not been able to use the system image tool in Windows 10 without seeing the attached error. I have performed 2 fresh installations and the error persists. I have tried two different portable drives, reformatted each drive, etc. There is plenty of room on C: drive and both portable drives. I have recently installed Macrium Reflect to create images which works perfectly.

    Have any of you seen the error I am experiencing and have a solution? I have searched online and don't see any solid answers.

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    Thanks
     

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  3. Charyb

    Charyb Registered Member

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    The information you provided worked great. I changed the System Reserved volume from 50 MB to 100 MB and Windows System Image worked as it should. This leaves 69 MB of free space on System Reserved instead of 20 MB.

    It's strange that Windows created the System Reserved volume and volume size at installation, yet it's not large enough to run their own tool.

    Thanks a bunch!
     

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  4. Brian K

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    Charyb,

    Nice work, you two.

    How did your SRP get to be 50 MB? I've never seen one reported at that size.
     
  5. TheRollbackFrog

    TheRollbackFrog Imaging Specialist

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    That's waaaaaay too small...usually, unless a System has been messed with, if it's a Legacy-MBR BOOTed System the WinRE.wim lives there, and that's over 200mB all by itself (the one on my System is 378mB). If it's an UEFI-GPT System the basic MSR is usually created at 16mB (see HERE) because under the Win10 System it is only supposed to assist with partition mgmt., if necessary. Meethinks the System Image Tool in W10 is about to be permanently deprecated. Nobody at M$ seems to know that it uses the MSR for anything.

    The other thing is that the System Image Tool is a leftover from W07 which just happens to work (until now, anyway) under W10. Maybe it's really on its way out...
     
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  6. TheRollbackFrog

    TheRollbackFrog Imaging Specialist

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    Just noticed that development/maintenance stopped on the System Image Tool in v1709. The Microsoft recommendation at that time was... "We recommend that users use full-disk backup solutions from other vendors."

    It may have finally broken in v2004 although they haven't removed it yet.
     
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  7. imdb

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    thanks for bringing it to attention, trf. :thumb:
     
  8. Brian K

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    It's no loss. Windows System Imaging is the worst imaging app.
     
  9. imdb

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    indeed. i don't even remember the last time i used it. heck, i'm not even sure if i ever did. :D
     
  10. Charyb

    Charyb Registered Member

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    I increased System Reserved to 498 MB just to be safe. I hope this will be plenty and I won't be using Windows system image any longer.

    When I swapped out my HDD for an SSD, I told myself I was going to stick with Windows built-in tools only. No Macrium, no Paragon, no CCleaner, etc. It looks like Macrium and Paragon are staying.

    I appreciate the help and information you folks provided.

    Thanks.
     
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