SUMo : Keep your software up to date

There is a sponsor free link.
You must have chosen the wrong download link.

 

You said about the same thing already, a couple of days ago.
And you got some replies that suggested to and even explained(!!) how to choose the SUMo Lite version, that has no adware at all.
I said that I thought this should be well known information, by now.
When you choose SUMo, I guess you read some information about it.
Most information about SUMo tells about the adware, and the suggestion to choose the SUMo Lite version is hard to overlook.
Like here, for instance:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-software-update-monitor.htm

 

I have been using SuMo for a couple years and I have NEVER had adware as a result! If you take your time and READ what is available, and follow directions, you should not have a problem.....

 

And here's another page that suggests to choose SUMo Lite and shows you where to find it:
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/software-updates-monitor-sumo

As I said, when you choose SUMo, I guess you read some information about it.
Good luck.

 

I keep saying this, but it makes me chuckle that we end up telling people they can use the Lite version of SUMo so it kinda makes having the RK-bundled version pointless. Most people will end up downloading the Lite version.

Obviously Kyle needs the money, but he's not achieving this if we all just download the Lite version. Kyle, I suggest you offer SUMo as either donationware or shareware at a nominal cost; that will solve all problems - one version only, no adware and you get some cash in the process. Makes sense?

 

Yes tony your post makes a lot of sense but most people do not want monitoring software installed either.

Maybe kyle should just ditch the RK and make a commecial and free version.
Thanks.

 

I thought that was the point of my post, that is, to suggest Kyle to provide one version of SUMo without RK at a cost to the end-user. It just seems to me he isn't benefiting from having the RK version there if we all just download the Lite one anyway.

Unless someone can tell me it is actually useful to get money from an outside source, such as RK, from a program only a few end up using because the rest of us get the other one? (Just trying to understand the business & logic side of it.)

 

He may have a natural reluctance to issue a paid version as this could have differing outcomes.
It could be lucrative if the loyal userbase of the free version decides its worth buying.

Or it could turn people away.
Every new business has this step of uncertainty.

Its a great product and perhaps deserves a price tag.
I wish him well in whatever he may decide.

 

Or perhaps, for the sponsored installer version, Kyle could switch from RelevantKnowledge to the OpenCandy installer.
The problem with the RelevantKnowledge installer is that even when one opts out all offered extras, the RelevantKnowledge component is installed anyway, if I understand correctly.
OpenCandy also scans your system to determine what software recommendations will be offered, but when you opt out all recommended extras, none of it is installed and no OpenCandy component is installed, this in contrast to the RelevantKnowledge component which is installed anyhow.
This is why RelevantKnowledge is despised by many, while OpenCandy is more widly accepted.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Sources:
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/05/18/about-relevant-knowledge/
http://www.ghacks.net/2012/08/06/opencandy-explained-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-technology/
http://www.techsupportalert.com/con...-program-now-being-embedded-more-software.htm

 

What I meant to say was, that I think, in the opinion of many, RelevantKnowledge blemishes KC Softwares' reputation, and that I think that switching from RelevantKnowledge to the OpenCandy installer for the sponsored installer version may be helpful to correct that.

 

Actually nothing is getting blemished.
As has been said before there is a "lite" version where there is no RK installed.
Thanks.

 

Of course there is, that's also what I said in reply to silver0066's earlier posts.
But not everyone is as bright to pick the Lite installer. Fact is that some pick the full installer and then complain about RelevantKnowledge being installed. And that is not helpful to KC Softwares' reputation, I think.
I think it would be much easier for everyone if Kyle had the chance to switch from RelevantKnowledge to the OpenCandy installer for the sponsored installer version. Easier for those not so bright to pick the Lite installer, but also better for KC Softwares to be released from the negative reactions that come with providing an installer that installs the RelevantKnowledge component.

 

after a week of use I think this new version is realy faster compared to previous
No issue at all here on 8 64bit machine

Kyle just an idea, have you ever think changin icons (sumo and KCleaner)?
Because this 2 icons are the same Microsoft use (kcleaner icon is the same MS use for its system cleaner ), use different icos I know is only a cosmetic change but can be good to have more KC brandig appeal

 

SUMo - 3.7 (Released 2013-06-09)
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http://www.kcsoftwares.com/?sumo

 

This has been improved in v3.7 since "full reload" is no longer required before "checking"

 

Donation-ware seems to make sense. I'll look at Paypal or Shareit for that in the weeks to come.

 

Have you tried the "NoRK" version ? Would you this this would be an appropriate intermediate bundling ?

 

Sure but i'm a poooor icon designer. Do you have a good (and cheap ? ) designer to suggest ?

 

Thank you very much, Kyle.
I will update to v3.7 later today.
By the way, the server situation was good, lately. Mostly, the main server was fast, only very occasionally the backup server had to kick in and did that right away.

 

Thank you !

And sorry for my late reply : i dod not receice the forum notification for reply.

 

Hi Kyle,
No, I never tried the SUMo "NoRK" version. Only the "Lite" version.
The only thing that I know about the SUMo "NoRK" version is that it doesn't install RelevantKnowledge but offers a SUMo toolbar. Am I right?
As I never tried the SUMo "NoRK" version, and as I found no specific information about it regarding the toolbar offering and installation, I'm not sure if installing the toolbar is optional, or that installing some sponsored software may be compulsory with the NoRK version.
If installing the toolbar or any other sponsored software is fully optional, and nothing like RelevantKnowledge or similar is installed in case the user declines the sponsored software offer, that would be fine with me, and with most users, I think. It's only the fact that the full (RK) installer installs RK with no opt-out that is bothersome to those that are confronted with it.

 

Hi Kyle,
Perhaps you can find some usable free icons online?
Like here, for instance:
http://www.iconarchive.com/
http://www.iconfinder.com/
http://www.iconlet.com/
http://www.wpclipart.com/
And if you need to convert icons to another format:
http://www.convertico.com/
http://iconverticons.com/
http://converticon.com/

 

I'll try, thanks !

 

All sponsors are fully optionnal and can be, of course rejected during installation.
Should any be installed "by mistake" due to user error during installation process, they all can be removed by the standard way (add/remove program) independantly from our products.

 

Thank you very much, Kyle.
Good to get that clear about the sponsor components in the NoRK installer.
And as I said, if installing sponsor components is fully optional with the NoRK installer, nothing like RelevantKnowledge or similar is installed in case the user declines the sponsored software offer, that's fine with me.

But in regard to the full (RK) installer (which I never tried, either), as I understand from the Ghacks information about RelevantKnowledge, the RK-component is installed even when sponsor components are declined. And that is what all the fuzz is about, regarding the RK installer. And that's also what I wrote June 2nd: The problem with the RelevantKnowledge installer is that even when one opts out all offered extras, the RelevantKnowledge component is installed anyway, if I understand correctly. (But as I also wrote June 2nd, please correct me if I'm wrong.)
That is why I suggested to replace the RelevantKnowledge installer with an OpenCandy installer.
But donation-ware can be another alternative to the RK installer, as mentioned.