All tools loaded yesterday (TDS-3, Port Explorer, Worm Guard), full system scan run (I think), yet a "hidden" task still starts and runs, even when not connected to web. Checked TDS-3 processes, shows Norton Systemworks/antivirus/firewall processes, but these same processes do not show in Task Manager (ccEvtMgr and ccPxySvc don't show, but ccApp does show). NSW + virus + firewall 2003 loaded since last fall, stopped 2 buffer overrun attack 2 and 4 days ago, so its doing something. In Task Manager (Windows ME) sometimes a blank line shows at the bottom of the list of tasks, sometimes not. Yesterday, after installing each application (rebooting after each install) TDS-3 hung. I had Windows Explorer up, ADSL cable unplugged during whole install process and still unplugged, and Windows Explorer hung too. TDS-3 process showed as still running in Task Manager, but the icon disappeared, and couldn't get black console to show on display. Rebooted, TDS-3 hanging hasn't hung again, yet. TDS-3 configured to run at startup with everything scanned except CRC32 System Files Test. Full system scan found 2 files: LeakTest Demo (file ok), and one file named as .com.pif (don't remember file name) but has been archived to D:\ drive already. If TDS-3 isn't catching this right now, what can I use? What can I look for? Just found beginners TDS-3 configuration, haven't done it yet, so my question may be premature? Norton might be compromised - Ccap didn't used to run, and started running yesterday. This is a standalone machine, I have 4 port router for ADSL connect, but to me. More TDS-3 Process details, Symantec says these should show on Task Manager with ccApp: ccEvtMgr.exe : Name: Event Manager Service, Window: Win95 RPC Wmsg Window ccPxySvc.exe : Name: Norton Internet Security Proxy Service, Window: Win95 RPC Wmsg Window DDHelp.exe : Name: Microsoft DirectX Helper, Window: DDHelpWndClass Other Norton files show on TDS-3 process but not Task Manager, is this normal? (I don't know anything, have just been poking around and observing.) Where do I start?