So I need to get something straight about RB RX!

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by ratchet, May 30, 2012.

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  1. ratchet

    ratchet Registered Member

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    I've used CTM since its inception and prior to that I had a free license for AyRecovery. I had the apps on an XP desktop and a Vista LT. At my young age of 64 I have built my first PC, with the lone drive being a SSD. Frankly I feel kind of naked without a snapshot app. Several times they have conveniently rescued me from "Patch Tuesdays" or new software issues. Are there any issues with RB and a SSD? If not, at the next sale I'll purchase! Thank you!
     
  2. aladdin

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    There are no issues with Rollback Rx and SSDs. However, you need to purchase this from HDS and no one else as others are selling the older version of Rollback Rx which doesn't work with SSDs. One such company comes to mind is MagiCure.

    I extensively tested Rollback Rx on three of my computers with SSDs about six months ago. I did this by downloading the latest version of Rollback Rx from HDS site. After one month testing, I bought from them three licenses.

    With the licenses purchase, I got a download link for Rollback Rx. Thinking that this download link is for the owners of Rollback Rx, I downloaded it and installed it on all the three computers with SSDs.

    My nightmare started for about 2 months as each computers kept on crashing and I had to restore it from the backup image and then update it. Two months of hell. I then contacted the support, and they told me that I am using the old version which doesn't support the SSDs. No apology was given for this nightmares. Also, every time I had to uninstall and re-install I had to send them an email which took two days as I am not in California nor on California time zone. Eventually, I asked for refund and they gave me the refund.

    Most SSDs are very small in size and very soon Rollback Rx eats up all the available space. So to keep the space in check, I had to weakly baseline the image thus loosing all the snapshots.

    Best regards,

    KOR!
     
  3. aladdin

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    Basically, Rollback Rx puts the SSD in RAID configuration, thus allowing TRIM to work properly.

    However, your SSD software (Toolbox) will not recognize your SSD while under Rollback Rx (RAID) configuration.

    Best regards,

    KOR!
     
  4. ratchet

    ratchet Registered Member

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    Thank you for the interesting info!
     
  5. bgoodman4

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    You might want to ask your question over on the Horizon Data Systems (RollBack Rx) forum. With all due respect to KOR, who is very knowledgeable about RX, the idea that Rx will eat up available space because a particular drive is small makes no sense to me. Rx snapshots are simply a record of the hooks (locations) for the data it is protecting, if the data does not change space is not lost with subsequent snapshots (ie: they are incremental in nature). In addition Rx protects this space in case you want to rollback to the data so unless you are creating and deleting a large volume of data AND not deleting excess snaps, I see no reason free drive space would disappear. Now as I said I have a great deal of respect for KOR or I would be adamant that he is wrong about this and this is why I suggest you ask your questions over on the Rx forum.

    Rx is an excellent program IMHO and a trial of the software would be warranted if you are looking for this sort of protection. I have been using it for 3 or 4 years now and it has not given me any problems. My drive is 120 gig and I am a heavy user. I find that given my PC use (CAD and Graphics work) that my PC can become a bit sluggish after 4 weeks of intense use and a re-baseline is called for (I uninstall, do PC maintenance including disk image, and then reinstall). Many folks have mentioned that they can go 6 months or more without a baseline reset. I should mention though that I have not used it with an SSD.

    If you are interested here is the link to the HDS Rx forum http://horizondatasys-forum.com/disaster-recovery-programs/

    I hope this helps

    PS: and remember to make sure you download the latest version, as KOR noted failing to do this will potentially lead you into muddy waters.
     
  6. aladdin

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    LOL, you answered your own question. If you delete the data and delete the snaps, you will not have that deleted data available. You cannot rollback to the data and bring back that deleted data.

    You answered your own question again. Now you have lost all your snapshots and ability to rollback at all. Here is what I said above:

    Best regards,

    KOR!
     
  7. rkasse

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    I'm on an xp32 sp3 machine with a 220gb HD. I have been using Rollback Rx for about 2 months and it has consistently used about 10% of my total HDD space. I had about 35GB of data on the disk before RBrx. RBrx uses about another 25GB after about 2 months use. It is just now starting to show signs of slowing down the system so I will soon uninstall and reinstall the latest version of 9.1.

    I'm very happy with Rollback Rx. It is super convenient.

    edit: super not supper:D
     
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    Imagine 25GB premium on a SSD after two month's use. And, once you uninstall and/or re-baseline you use all your snapshots.

    If one needs to slow down their SSD, then install Rollback Rx. Even after that one has to do regular imaging as Rollback Rx doesn't protect from hard disk failure nor protects the MBR. Why not just rely on regular imaging only for the SSD.

    Best regards,

    KOR!
     
  9. rkasse

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    I'm not trying to promote one method or another. Each user should use whatever they are most comfortable with.

    One thing I like with rollback rx is when doing a rollback it first takes snapshot (5 seconds) of the current system then does the rollback with a simple reboot. If you discover your rolled backed version is missing some files that were on the system just before the rollback then you can mount a virtual drive of the system before the rollback and copy those files to your rolled back version.

    I realize you can accomplish the same thing with Macrium Reflect but you would have to do a backup just before the restore.

    It's just so much more convenient with Rollback rx and since I use an imaging program I have protection against HDD failure or MBR corruption.
     
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    It all boils-down to "different strokes for different folks".
     
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    I said that it is not necessarily the case that Rx will eat up the available space on a small drive. It can IF you create and delete large volumes of files and do not delete unnecessary snaps. You are assuming that there is a need to keep all snaps and that is a very personal decision. I keep only 6 snaps on my PC. The baseline, the last 4 boot snaps, and the last hourly snap of the day. For me Rx is not a file protection system, its a PC protection system. Critical files are backed up on-line as they are created or modified so there is no need to keep every snap ever created since the last baseline. Even if you are a heavy PC user, as I am, with a smallish drive, as I have (120 gig), unless you are turning those files created over on a regular basis (most folks I would suggest do not) then there is no reason that Rx will swallow all, or most, available space. You imply that its a given,,,,I say no.

    In addition I did not ask a question so I could not possibly have answered my own question. I made a statement of fact as I understand it.

    As for my monthly uninstall,,,, I have no need to keep snaps that are weeks old, I image my drive weekly so I can recover from an oversight if I have to.

    You wrote
    as if its an unavoidable fact,,,,its not,,,,perhaps as you used RX it was nec for you to do this but your use of Rx is not the only possible way it can be used.
     
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