slow computer

Discussion in 'hardware' started by Siamese Dream, Dec 18, 2022.

  1. Siamese Dream

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    I probably should have made that clear. My system is what I would call slow on boot up but good/acceptable after. I would say 5 minutes to boot up. After boot up it really becomes subjective. The internet pages load pretty quick IMO. The update times I'm not really sure on.
     
  2. Siamese Dream

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    It's the pre-installed "cleanmgr."
     
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    It is NOT a refurbished computer. Just to make clear.
     
  4. Brian K

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    Siamese Dream,

    Is your OS on an internal SSD or an internal HD?
     
  5. pb1

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    Restart the Pc afterward to finish of the repair.
    This repair will make the Os work better and maybe, maybe, even solve or help up your problem.

    As often as needed. After doing cleaning is 1 occasion to see that it did not clean to much. Same goes when using uninstallers that clean. I also do it before doing a backup after a W.update to be sure the Os is ok. In short, whenever there is a possibilty that the Os could have been corrupted.

    You need to answer the questions as to if the disc is internal or external.
     
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  6. subhrobhandari

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    Well, other than what's already said about SSD etc, you can try QuickCPU.

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    https://coderbag.com/product/quickcpu
    From the options set "CPU set maximum performance" (you can uncheck setting the QuickCPU power plan), in short this will disable CPU core parking, enable turbo boost and maximum speed shift and frequency scaling.

    This will have most noticeable performance boost unless you have a decade old celeron processor. I am aware of process lasso which has some options similar however that is not free and I have better experience with QuickCPU. You can also read the what each option does and change them individually but I won't recommend that unless/until you have read a lot about what each of the settings do.
     

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  7. Brummelchen

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    seriously? but that would explain that windows is repairing files or structures each boot. there exist no other explanation. but without evidence, currently you refuse to present results from crystaldisk.

    ccleaner is also pre-installed and its default settings clean up windows caches which are vital for proper and fast functioning.

    either your brand new system has hardware issues, or your windows is bloated and full of futile software - but that wont explain why windows still need to recover damaged files, for no reason.

    for the fun fact - my windows 11 with same configuration (slightly different hardware) starts up faster than windows 10 here. also my win10pro unchanged (no tweaks).
     
  8. moredhelfinland

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    Oh yeah, we ditched MS Defender at work, because of slownes of it. We do almost constatly backups to cloud, nas and external USB drives, and this silly defender slows the wordflow. We also all of our PCs dual boot with Manjaro XFCE. So we can continue, if feared windows "tuesday" bricks the ****.
     
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    Trellix EDR with only its DAC component active with Voodooshield=EPIC
     
  10. pb1

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    Slow boot could be due to the graphics driver or flawed hardware. Test the hardware and change the driver.

    When did this slowness begin and what changed on the pc a short time before it?
     
  11. Bill_Bright

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    This is why I don't like those so called professional labs. No matter how much they try, or how vehement their claims, they do NOT represent the real world.

    What percentage of your computing time is spent, (1) copying files, (2) archiving/unarchiving files, (3) "installing" apps, (4) "launching" apps, or (5) downloading files?

    Or do you spend the biggest percentage of your time just "running" your apps and programs, answering your emails, surfing the net, updating your social media, watching videos?

    I rarely copy files but when I do, it is not 500 files, each one 100s of megabytes in size. It is just a handful at most and with SSDs, my system is waiting me to get my mouse over there, instead of the other way around.

    If you constantly do massive amounts of file copying and archiving and installing and launching and downloading, then fine. Go with something else.
     
  12. The Red Moon

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    On my windows pc the only slow down i experience is when cold booting the computer..Tried several methods to cure this like disabling fast startup etc and makes no difference.
     
  13. stapp

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    You can always alter the time for startup by running msconfig (as admin) then select boot tab.... and then specify a time e.g. 10 seconds for instance and then ticking make boot settings permanent.
     
  14. Bill_Bright

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    Or, you can press the on button and go get your coffee.
     
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    Aha indeed bill..might as well do a fry up sometimes.:isay:
     
  16. Bill_Bright

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    Well, if you have time to cook bacon and eggs, it sure is not because your AV is taking its time.
     
  17. Siamese Dream

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    HD
     
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    I haven't had time and probably won't till this weekend.

    Ccleaner is not pre-installed. Cleanmgr is.
     
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    I don't recall it ever having faster bootup times. It's always been 3-5 minutes. Even though I can sign in within a couple minutes I still have to let everything in the background finish loading because there's still a delay in being able to access the internet. Where I started to notice a difference is occasionally an internet page or something I'm working outside the internet will freeze for a few moments before coming back to normal time. I almost never have many pages open at once.
     
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    I spend almost no time doing 1-5. I'm usually just surfing the net. Videos would almost always be YT.
     
  21. pb1

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    That you have a HDD instead of a SSD might explain your problem, or at least a large part of it. Buy a SSD, reinstall your Os, that will probably solve this.
    If there still is a problem it will be due to a lot of programs running in the background, or a few, or some, really heavy ones or a hardware problem. Thats it.
     
  22. Brian K

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    This is almost certainly your problem. We have several computers multi-booting Win10 on a HD and a SSD. Booting Win10 from the HD is a disaster. Booting Win10 from the SSD in the same computer is quite acceptable.

    Each Win10 is a clone of the other.

    You need to transfer your OS to a SSD.
     
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  23. Bill_Bright

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    So you are just like 99% of the rest of the users out there - illustrating again, how those "professional" :rolleyes: labs have no sense of what "real world" means. :(
     
  24. Siamese Dream

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    Internal SSD only?
     
  25. Brian K

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    What I'd do is create an entire drive backup image of the HD. Write the image to a USB external HD. Remove the internal HD and install the blank SSD. Restore the entire drive image to the SSD.

    You can use the old HD for data/backups.
     
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