ShadowProtect vs. ATI

That's because Peter doesn't fool around with his harddisk until he has taken a full backup at the end of the day and then he can fool around with his harddisk.

I can fool around with my system partition at any moment, because my data is stored on another harddisk/partition.

 

BUT I don't see how the importance of data supports the single partition argument. If anything the importance of data suggests that having several partitions ( or preferably several 2 hard drives ?) As Erik says - accidents do happen. But as Peter says - he has worked for 5 years without issue.

If you read my earlier post carefully there is no favoring the single part.or against it,for me it just doesnt matter,my only concern is to diminish the change off destroying my pers. data so i make 3 copies from the same file and put it on 3 different ext. disks,just in case.......... thus everything important to me stay offside,after that moment i can shoot my rig,burn it,throw out off the window,struck by lightning, whatever,its all about pers.data,afterall i can buy me a new rig ,but i can't buy me data back.In normal everyday use i can screw up my windows and personal files on the int. harddisk,if that happen its relieving and comforteble thought that image restores never failed me (backup/restore 20 min.)and after restore i bring C:\ current with a data backup app. in a few minutes.

 

Huupi,
You backup your harddisk on 2007.05.27 at 5:00 PM

Next day 2007.05.28 you start working at 9:00 AM and at 4:00 PM you have to restore your harddisk due to a disaster (the cause doesn't matter).

So you restore your image from 2007.05.27 - 5:00 PM to get back in business, which is your LAST backup.

Where are the updates of 2007.05.28 from 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM.
- you created 10 documents
- you received 20 emails
- you updated several databases
- etc.
Do you still think you have these updatings ? After all your personal data is very important, like you said.

 

Linux-based Boot CDs do leave a lot to be desired in terms of Windows-compatible drivers. It just goes to my earlier comment as to why it's so important to test everything about a disk-imaging program on the equipment that it is expected to protect and with the equipment which will store the images.

There's no question that a customized BartPE Boot CD (which is Windows-based) is the best method, but since ATI's Boot CD works just fine for my 3-systems (and my USB drive), I've never had a sense of urgency to create one!

 

lucky you that the acronis linux based cd you created booted.
none of the ten i made worked on eiether on my pc's
so if it works for you keep using it.
lodore

 

Yes, I intend to continue using it (as long as it continues to do the job for me). Sorry that your experience with ATI was the opposite of mine ...it happens.

Anyhow, please let us know if Paragon ever comes through for you with that WinPE CD.

Good luck, pv

 

i will tell you if i get the winpe cd from paragon.
i should get a reply back from paragon about it tomorrow.
i will tell you if im successfull in getting one.
lodore

 

Please do, because if that does the trick I would like to get one as well. If Paragon is willing to furnish those to HDM users, I sure don't understand why they just don't start using them instead of their lame Linux CD (which doesn't work for either one of us)!

 

i couldnt agree more.
do what i did.
login in to support.
submit a report request saying e..g. the linux based recovery cd for HDM8.5 doesnt see my external usb drive.
they will reply there are two solutions custom winpe cd or custom bartpe cd.
say you would like them to make you a custom winpe cd.
thats what i have done so far.
i will see what they say tomorrow.
if i get the winpe cd i will surgest to them to get rid of the linux based recovery cd and give a winpe recovery cd for all there products.
lodore

 

Having a plan is important and working the plan is even more important. However, adding my 2-cents to this subject, if you only have one HDD in your PC (which is the situation with most laptops), creating and using 2 or 3 partitions in a strategic manner can minimize risk and facilitate backups!

 

One solution is to have a real-time backup to either a 2nd internal HD or external media.

My second HD is formatted as a single extended partition just for data. My principal program for documents is MSWord, and it's easy to set up a custom File|Save Macro to copy the file to another location.

I do the same with images in Photoshop, although I have to use a batch file to do the copying.

I do this for other reasons, but realize that it would be a solution for the scenario that you suggest: if the first HD failed between 9AM and 4PM you would have current backup copies of files created during that time period.

regards,

-rich

 

If you guys are going to dibble around with IMAGING and all that may i suggest a very simple precaution to spare yourselves trouble if your images foul up or anything else.

Get another EQUAL sized HARD DRIVE and "CLONE" everything including MBR/Partitions and all to it, then you're extra secured from loss.

 

I'm aware of this flaw, but which partition will most probably damaged ? The most attacked partition [C:], which is the target of most malwares.
Only when a malware targets all my harddisks, I will lose my updatings of today.
If only my system partition [C:] is damaged, I still have my data partition [D:] intact.

 

Every user has this problem and certainly the user with only one harddisk and one partition, which is the majority of users.
If I work with scheduled backups, I have to expose my external harddisk constantly to internet. That's not a solution and I didn't buy my internal harddisk for backup either and those are also exposed to internet.

 

Does that solve the problem of losing updatings of TODAY ? I don't see any solution.

 

Drive Backup 8.51 - Real-time hard disk imaging backup...

You bet.

Mike

 

Sounds like ShadowProtect.
They should write "including system and hidden files, compressed an encrypted files and even boot records and even all malwares of any kind.".

Maybe this problem should be another thread, enough food for a long discussion.

 

As flinchlock points out. It IS NOT that as complex as some will always try to make it all out to be. The solutions are right there in front of you if you care to make use of them.

For every action, there is an equal reaction. In exactly the same manner, for every obstacle which presents itself there is an equal and reliable solution. The problem enters when you try to make far too much of what can go wrong without also seriously considering the list of alternative approaches that are available.

 

I understand. All Paragon fans stick together. Nothing unusual.

 

Acronis fans also are equally highly enthusiastic themselve, and thats the way it should be. If your IMAGING solution never fails you then you have no reason to ever part with it. In this day and age of walking a fine line between what proves itself for you but not for another, stick with what works.

 

Sorry I said something about a data backup app. in my last post,naturally i use one,its Karen Replicator to stay current all the time !!
Many people install their imaging app. and take images,incrementals,differentials from within the living system,i can't because it does't work for me at the moment so i use the recovery CD for imaging.

 

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=175917

Mike

 

thanks Mike.