Sandboxie &TF vs Sandboxie & DW

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  1. Longboard

    Longboard Registered Member

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    So
    I've been trying to pare back the "tools' a bit..
    Been following the various threads..

    Use Sandboxie for browsing from home in XP.
    Have been happy with Prevx and Sophos behind a router for a while, but getting a bit dispirited about what seems to be a 'pause' in PrevX development and updates and what appears to be an internal conflict of interest btwn PrevX and PrevX CSI that so far has not been addressed to my satisfaction. Shame really. I hope PrevX will lift itself soon.
    PrevX will also 'reach into" the sandbox but doesn't seem to want to delete or quarantine the sandbox at first go. Just asks about run or not.

    TF been getting some good press

    An update on Sandboxie and TF for 'testing' dl's that might be a mal or not ?

    Does TF interact with the sandbox function of DW in any similar fashion?

    Realistically at home I spend most of my time in Linux in a VM but still need M$ for various work related bits and pieces: heh: very important bits and pieces !!. (Will soon move to Linux as primary and M$ in VM at home ;) )

    Finally have put my office on-line -has to be M$- behind a router with Sophos and need some Really safe options for office workers to be behind ( as well as limited rights in XP ) My office team will not handle multiple pop-ups well. They will occasionally be browsing..retrieving documents and pdfs and connecting to outside servers..
    No e-mail as yet..by design..dont want it if p[ossible or if have to have it: one way only I think..:shifty:

    LOL; have yet to address VPN and tunnelling between home and office: will be getting some extra help there !!.
    Amazingly complex what many here no doubt take for granted. :eek:

    For the office, ?WinPatrol? +/- ?TF? , ?stick with PrevX?

    Any comments? advices?: just sort of casting a line to tap into the accumulated KB..
    Thx.

    Edit: so after all that ramble:
    1: Application control
    2: Outbound filter
    ??
     
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  2. CogitoErgoSum

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    Hello Longboard,

    Although, I have no experience with the concurrent use of both DefenseWall(policy restriction sandbox) and SandBoxie(file, folder and registry virtualization sandbox), Kees1958 best expresses my opinion of this combination in the following links below.

    http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=73034&st=0&p=205867&#entry205867 (Post #9)
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1248922&postcount=21 (Post #21)

    The link below is my sobering experience with running one too many redundant or overlapping security programs for testing and experimental purposes.

    http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=72694&st=0&p=204967&#entry204967 (Post #1)

    The links below are related to my experiences with DefenseWall(DW) and various security set-up combinations.

    http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=71660&st=0&p=202834&#entry202834 (Post #3)
    http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=71660&st=15&p=203419&#entry203419 (Post #22)
    http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=71660&st=15&p=203582&#entry203582 (Post #25)
    http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=73034&st=0&p=205898&#entry205898 (Post #10)
    http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=73120&st=0&p=205968&#entry205968 (Post #5)

    If you decide to use DW the following link below may be of interest to you.(*Note: Please take note of post #'s 3, 5, 7, 10, 18, 28 and 29.)

    http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=71660

    Hope this helps.


    Peace & Gratitude,

    CogitoErgoSum
     
  3. Longboard

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    Grazie

    thanks for that effort, I'll check out your links
    :)

    Any comment about the/any "secretary" security wall ?:
    A few pop-ups not really an issue; my self and my partner nearly always nearby.
    I dont mean to dis my staff, just minimise any issues, if there is a screw-up, I dont want them carrying the angst.

    PS: OT but: it has been an interesting experience upgrading all HW and comms.
    Home:
    4 desktops ( 2 new 2 old ) Me + spouse, children
    with assorted softwares, images and security considerations etc
    cable
    router
    Raid NAS
    external USb HDs
    several usb thumbs
    10 port switch
    wired home network
    2 laptops
    Color inkjet
    Multifunction Laser
    2 mobile phones
    3 unusable laptops: ood all at least 8 years old , :rolleyes: typewriters: off to charity, but prolly worthless.
    powerboards everywhere: computers printers phone chargers organizers lights camera battery chargers etc etc
    Plague of little cradles has sprung up :eek:
    To top it off every bloody company has to have their own little variations of powerplugs/jacks, USB cables SD/XD cards ( or at least seems to ) despite my best efforts to standardise it all :mad:

    Work:
    desktop
    server
    laptop
    router
    switch
    wireless and wired network
    external storage
    Web based storage and back-ups
    Hard copy storage and file retrieval service
    Multifunction laser printer
    EFTPOS terminal ; heh ; the most important to keep on line
    Passwords all over the place
    Security
    Admin logins
    user logins
    aarrgghh.

    This is just to keep up!
    And we still have a necessary paper component o_O
    Small business!! o_O

    LOL: simple example of increasing complexity :had to upgrade to digital dictation system: old tape based dictaphone had ~6 options rewind record play etc, tape transcriber easy. OOB and in use: 1 minute.
    Now, digital dictaphone has about 10 buttons & 400 options; I had to have 1/2 hour teaching session; manual of 100 pages !! Install new software: Have to teach staff how to dl .wav and dss files and how to work the transcribing software: another hour..
    :rolleyes:

    From the security and privacy aspect : very easy to poke holes in one's set-up if one tries, never mind the multiple choke and break points.
    Have to jig multiple fail-safes for home and work. :argh:
    HAve to pay through the schnozz for tech support and maintenance: better be worth it all.

    Ok so there might be a little fat there ;) , but I really have tried to keep it relatively lean and some of the HW has just accumulated over time.
    So glad my life is getting simpler and more productive :blink:
    I remember pen and paper -slide rule- heaven forbid !!: never had to have rechargers :cautious:
    lol :blink:

    What's more i bet many of the wilders have similar if not more complex set-ups: note no gaming or media centre yet; yippee - more to come.
    God knows how much we've all spent over the years.
     
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  4. HURST

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    Try freezing the system partition, that way the system becomes "secretary proof".
     
  5. Longboard

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    Sadly, Have to have daily database updates and some tools with changing data need to be on the system partition (and dont want to confuse with partitioning)
     
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