Sandboxie-Plus 1.11.0, 1.11.1 Pre-Release

Discussion in 'Sandboxie (SBIE Open Source) Plus & Classic' started by DavidXanatos, Aug 25, 2023.

  1. DavidXanatos

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    @Vikterola62
    You should be able to allow processes in the list, I'll test that asap, perhaps there is a bug in the access logic.

    @algol1 That sounds like a great idea, I'll add a check to the updater for certificate expiration, when its expired it will disable auto update and augment the update message with a warning that it most likely will disable premium features.
     
  2. busy

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    @Vikterola62

    Allow the audiodg.exe process or add the following setting to the sandbox configuration.

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    DenyHostAccess=audiodg.exe,n
     
  3. algol1

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    Ok, under these improved conditions and primarily to honor your relentless work I've just bought me a brandnew "Sandboxie-Plus Personal"-certificate.:isay:
     
  4. algol1

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    Another brief observation - now with the default-box being "outsourced" to an ImDisk-RAM-Drive (mounted as drive R:\) again:
    Immediate-file-recovery doesn't seem to work from there. Once a download is finished the file is offered for immediate recovery though - as expected. But on pressing the button to recover an error-message will pop up saying:
    "Failed to recover some files:
    \Device\ImDisk0\DefaultBox\drive\D\-DFU\Download\..."
     
  5. DavidXanatos

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    mmh... i thin if you use the option to asign a drive letter to teh ram disk it may work correctly, but I'll need to fix that for the other case anyways.
     
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    Actually I DO assign a drive-letter (here R:\) to the RAM-drive - but the issue with immediate recovery will occur regardless of whether the RAM-drive gets a drive-letter assigned to it or not.
     
  7. zmechys

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    I have a question about Classic Sandboxie.
    All David's comments are about Sandboxie Plus.
    Almost all comments from the "concerned" users of David's Sandboxie are about Sandboxie Plus.
    With every new update of Sandboxie Plus, I see a new version of Sandboxie Classic.
    I wonder if David really improves/updates/upgrades Sandboxie Classic.
     
  8. zmechys

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    This time, I have a question about Sandboxie Plus.
    The Sandboxie Plus deletion process is just "perfect" for SSD.
    I have HDD's on my computers; therefore, I prefer to delete the Sandboxie contents securely.
    Is there any possibility to do so?

    I'm trying to learn about Sandboxie Plus on my laptop.
    It's so easy to use any Browser with Sandboxie Plus (especially, Mulvad), but...
    When it's time to close Sandboxie Plus, I want to delete my Sandboxie Plus contents SECURE (just BECAUSE.)
    Is it possible?
     
  9. deugniet

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    An option is to use the ramdisk. See for more info the Privacy Enchancement:

    https://sandboxie-plus.com/ramdisksupport/

    You could also look at Imdisk Toolkit for a ramdisk.

    https://sourceforge.net/projects/imdisk-toolkit/
     
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    As far as basic compatibility with OS and browser-"improvements" (even intrusive "upgrades") are concerned I'm quite certain thereof. Only newly added features and enhancements in Sandbox-capabilities are reserved for Plus. This also being the reason why all "tech-nerds" here have migrated to Plus long ago and hence the questions and problems they may have only revolve around Plus ever since.

    Speaking of which - I'm not sure if and how a wiping-routine could be invoked upon closing down of sandboxie and how to transfer the info necessary about what files would need to be wiped to that routine - although it is possible to auto-run external utilities before and after the main sandboxed tasks are executed. But - having that said - for your special needs concerning secure deletion the newly introduced feature of "outsourcing" all sandboxed content to a RAM-drive might sound extremely interesting. No more hassle with secure deletion and once the power is shut off all info hitherto contained in that sandbox in the blink of an eye is gone - as in.. like it never had existed. NSA "rubbernecks", eat your heart out!

    Addendum:
    Oh, I see, @deugniet in the meantime had the same idea and advised you accordingly.
     
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  12. DavidXanatos

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    Sandboxie Classic and Plus share the same core components, so a lot of the features available in Plus can use utilized in Classic, just that they lack any sort of UI and you need to configure them in the INI directly.
    The new box encryption option can even be invoked using start.exe's command lines so its technically functional in Classic.

    About secure deletion, please don't murder your SSD, there is _NO_ such thing like secure deleting anything on a SSD, keyword wear leveling.
    On the other hand any file deleted normally should be trimmed and many SSD's will preemptively erase all trimmed sectors.
    But most important is now modern browsers handle files, they don't edit them they always make new once and insecurely delete the old then rename the new one.
    So deleting files by any special means once a box is closed is just pointless snake oil.

    If you want the data to be gone use a ram disk.

    Currently all boxes on a system share a ram disk but if there is interest I can change the mechanism such as to create one ram disk per box and unmount the ram disk once the box gets closed.
     
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    Yes, a dynamic ram disk would be great.
     
  14. zmechys

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    David,

    At this time, my computers have only HDD; therefore, I need to delete my Sandboxie contents securely.
    When I switch to SSD, then, yes, I will be happy with Sandboxie Plus auto deletion.

    A question for you.
    I have a setup that either Privazer or CCleaner securely deletes my Sandboxie Classic contents. I have never had any issues, but...
    With Sandboxie Plus, I need to figure out where those Sandboxie Plus files are located in order to delete them secure by using Privazer/CCleaner.

    P.S. I don't have any experience of Sandboxie's Plus inner mechanisms (it requires some Advanced knowledge) but it was so simple to open and use Mulvad Browser with Sandboxie Plus without any added lines, any special creations of this/that, etc...
    I was really impressed.
     
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    and so your ssd will die very soon.
     
  16. DavidXanatos

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    you can use teh trigger settings
    something liek this:
    upload_2023-9-5_21-6-49.png
     
  17. Brummelchen

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    i dont know why you as a developer recommend such destructive action on ssd.
    "re-trim" is the magic keyword.
    https://www.tenforums.com/performan...y-way-windows-10-re-trim-empty-space-ssd.html
    (C is the drive to get trimmed, await the result thereafter)

    ofc this is NOT overwriting, but this wont decrease ssd live.

    windows 7 is dumb, really dumb, if user dont teach it.

    for powershell
    "0" means TRIM is active.
     
  18. DavidXanatos

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    Because teh user wrote:


    no SSD no problem
     
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    Thank you very much.
    That's what I currently need!
     
  21. zmechys

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    "Upcoming use of SSD" - it's not today or tomorrow, or in one month!
     
  22. DavidXanatos

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    hmm strange i cant reproduce this one right now, so just to be sure is the issue also present with manual recovery? or only with immediate?
     
  23. algol1

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    Not sure what you mean by "manual". I can recover the files downloaded in the end before Sandboxie would close down by manual selection. So only "immediate recovery" is denied.
     
  24. busy

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    @DavidXanatos Try after enabling "Show recoverable files as notfications" setting.

    Plus > Options > Global Settings > Notifications > Show recoverable files as notfications

     
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    This is great, didn't know such option existed. Up until today I was using Bleachbit to delete the contents of my boxes.
     
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