Sandboxie Acquired by Invincea

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by ad18, Dec 16, 2013.

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  1. Rasheed187

    Rasheed187 Registered Member

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    I use SBIE quite often to install apps, but of course not all apps will work correctly and some won't install at all, because of the restrictions. Remember that SBIE is trying to keep the system safe, in contrary to most light virtualization tools who only virtualize without blocking anything. But I was indeed able to successfully install this tool.
     
  2. rm22

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    Thanks for testing it for me - I tried a new sandbox with default settings and i get the same crash. But, when i disable my HIPS and AV then i just get a "sandboxed program has crashed" notification instead of freezing up the whole system... progress

    What procedure are you guys following for the install? I am also just using the free version of Sbie if that makes a difference?
     
  3. bo elam

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    The sandbox in the free or paid versions is the same. Yesterday I tested installing the PDF program in XP and just did now in W7. I got same results. Theres nothing special that has to be done installing programs sandboxed other than using a sandbox with no Start Run or internet restrictions and not ticking Drop rights. Most programs wont install sandboxed with Drop rights enabled.

    Thats why I recommended you to use a new default settings sandbox. I right click the installer, select Run sandboxed, choose the new sandbox and the installation should go through.

    Bo
     
  4. rm22

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    ok - Thanks for the help. still can't get it to work - maybe a conflict with Online Armor or Avast...
     
  5. HAN

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    Since Bo can get it to go under his systems, my initial guess is Online Armor being the issue. PDFill installs a PDF writer called "PDFill PDF&Image Writer" as a printer driver to create PDFs from any program.
     
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    Having used Online Armor for years, and just recently tried Avast, I'd bet on Avast being the problem
     
  7. Moose World

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    Salutations/Holiday Greetings!

    Windows 10 X64 Operating System.

    The following will browser's will NOT work with Sandboxie.

    > Microsoft Edge
    > Yandex
    > Vivaldi

    Hope this help you out.
     
  8. bjm_

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    LastPass question:
    I've added Software Compatibility [+] LastPass.
    I'm not finding LastPass with File Access.
    Is that correct..?
     
  9. bo elam

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    Hello Moose, Edge is not supported at this time by Sandboxie.
    http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?KnownConflicts#Windows 10

    But, a couple of weeks ago, I tested installing Vivaldi in a sandbox and all worked fine. I tested in W7, Craig@Invincea also reported Vivaldi worling fine under Sandboxie. It is likely he tested in W10.
    http://forums.sandboxie.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=22151&start=15#p116102

    A few minutes ago, I tested Yandex, and same result. I installed the browser in a sandbox, this time I did it in my XP.

    Perhaps your antivirus, firewall, web guard, HIPS, WOT or another security program, or a combination of all the security programs that you are using is not letting this browsers run sandboxed. For testing, you can try running the browsers in a new default settings sandbox. Are you getting any SBIE messages?

    Bo
     
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  10. bo elam

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    I am not familiar with Last pass but if you enabled software compatibility settings for it, you should be seeing something like that line below in your SBIE config file:

    Template=LastPass

    In the picture, you can see how to find the setting for LP in Sandbox settings when it is enabled in a particular sandbox.

    untitled.JPG

    Bo
     
  11. bjm_

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    @bo elam
    I find Template=LastPass with GlobalSettings and Internet Explorer settings config but, do not find LastPass with Direct Access. I can manually add Direct Access > ProgramFiles(x86)\LastPass. But, not finding Direct Access LastPass with IE/Firefox/Chome sandbox's. LastPass runs okay in IE/FF/Chrome. Just that I noticed LastPass preferences with IE sandbox reverts to default. That's why I checked Configuration. I thought LastPass was global compatible till I tried LastPass w IE sandbox'd.
    KeePass is primary in Firefox/Chrome, only recently setup LastPass just to see.
     
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  12. StillBorn

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    Came this close to updating till I ran into this. :eek:
    Still couldn't pinpoint what's up (as in "stupid bug") with the newest SBIE version scanning back a few pages...
    Any specifics? Thanks to any/everyone in advance.
     
  13. bo elam

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    Thats all you should find when you apply globally Software compatibility settings for Last pass (done via Configure>Software compatibility).

    Bo
     
  14. bo elam

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    You couldn't find anything because there's nothing to find. Most issues affect users in their own individual system. Sandboxie is not perfect but basically avoiding using programs that conflict with SBIE is the key to enjoy using SBIE. I use Sandboxie in two computers with different systems and just about anything that runs in my computers, runs sandboxed all the time, and all is well. Again, not perfect but all for the most part feels as if I was not using SBIE, sandboxes open and close fast. All runs and feels natural.

    Known conflicts link.
    http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?KnownConflicts

    Bo
     
  15. Mr.X

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    I can testify Bo's claim. Just want to say Curt and his team have done a stupendous job, in my case Sandboxie latest version is running smoothly on my Windows Embedded 8.1 x64. There's a lag when executing Chrome but quite imperceptible, once opened it just browses the Internet as good as usual.
    In a personal opinion Invincea now/lately has convinced me that they came in to do things as good as Tzuk...
     
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    Well, I have [GlobalSettings] > Template=HitmanProAlert and find FullAccess > hmpalert with each sandbox.
    Thinking with [GlobalSettings] > Template=LastPass that I should find FileAccess (Direct or Full) > LastPass...#2285...with each sandbox...?
     
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  17. bo elam

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    Then perhaps you put that there yourself last time we talk about HMPA and SBIE. Go to Sandbox settings>Applications>All applications, and untick the setting there for HMPA. If Sandboxie lets you untick it, then what I am thinking is correct.

    If the full access setting was put in this particular sandbox when you applied Software compatibility settings, you wont be able to do it and Sandboxie will tell you that to disable the setting you have to do it globally (Configure>Software compatibility).

    Bo
     
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    Software Compatibility > [+] HitmanProAlert literally adds FullAccess > [\Device\NamedPipe\hmpalert] to each sandbox. So, I was expecting Software Compatibility > [+] LastPass to add Direct or FullAccess > [\*\*\lastpass] to each sandbox. Am I confused (easy for me)...?
     
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  19. bo elam

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    Software compatibility settings are designed to make programs get along better with Sandboxie. But for some programs, Sandboxie has to open up more than for others. Don't expect every program for which you allow this settings to require full access settings. I think programs that require that kind of setting is a tiny minority.

    Bo
     
  20. Rasheed187

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    It might indeed be a conflict, but I forgot to mention that on my machine (Win 8.1) sometimes certain apps also don't work without any clear reason. Especially in sandboxes where data protection (Resource Access) is enabled.

    It's a bug on my machine, where FF keeps crashing if it's run in the same sandbox with Opera 12. Other than this, I couldn't find any major problems with v5.
     
  21. Rasheed187

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    BTW, I just noticed a new gaming platform, perhaps some of you guys would like to take it on a test drive, to see if it works correctly with SBIE:

    https://www.gog.com/galaxy
     
  22. bo elam

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    That can happen if you block sandboxed programs from having access to files and folders in AppData or Program files. You should use this settings to block personal files and folders.

    Bo
     
  23. FleischmannTV

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    Why on earth would you run an application in SBIE, which's sole purpose it is to install programs (i.e. games) and modify existing installations on your computer? I can't wait for people to add it to HitmanPro.Alert as well and then start complaining about lockdown mitigation alerts :blink:
     
  24. bjm_

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    Well, in this case (for me) Software Compatibility [+] LastPass only renders Template=LastPass with GlobalSettings and Internet Explorer settings config. For a Global Setting, it's ignoring other sandboxes and not acting very Global.
    And LastPass in Internet Explorer only offers default preferences with IE sandbox'd. IE not sandbox'd offers my user set preferences. So, head scratch. No biggy. Just head scratch. LastPass user will chime in....Thanks
     
  25. Rasheed187

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    It's more about not being completely comfortable with gaming platforms like Steam and Origin, so I prefer to install them sandboxed, I don't want them to mess around with my system. Of course they will be installed into their own dedicated sandbox, so I don't see the problem.
     
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