Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Scoobs72, Jan 4, 2010.
Not a joke...tzuk has released a beta:
let's see how it turns thanks for the info
Thanks Scoobs72. This is good news and glad to see developers realizing the necessity to transition tools to 64-bit.
thank you man you for the info
This is good news. When I recently went from XP Pro 32-Bit to Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, I figured I would have to settle for UAC+SRP and nothing else.
thanks to tzuk and scoobs for the heads up
wow amazing but the question is how secure is it going to be? Tzuk said before
that it wouldn't be very secure.
I wonder if other vendors such as Malware defender and defense wall will follow suit and also make 64bit?
The most wise decision by tzuk. Or he would have been out of business in coming days.
It,s really nice to have this version. 64-bit computing will dominate very rapidly, largely because of the fact that OEM windows installs are mostly 64 bit.
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!! I AM SO HAPPY!!! YESSSSS!!!!
I can't wait for final release! I dont' even care if it's not going to be as watertight as x32! I want to use Sandboxie again!!!
Tzur made some body's day i guez
No Sandboxie at 64 bit has been bugging the hell out of me.
Good (business) decision on tzuk's part, even if it goes against his principles. Prediction: Defensewall's Ilya will follow suit, shortly.
well in his small description he said everything works except for kernal mode supervision, but registry and file writes are protected, but he also said thats why drop my rights is enabled by default so those for the most part, the supervision issue seems to not be much of a problem with Drop my rights covering it.
im sure anyone here running LUA will agree that it works reasonably well doing it that way.
As long as you guys are aware that Sandboxie won't be as secure as the 32 bit version. Sandboxie's strength at controlling the behavor of running apps has gone down, what if your browser connects to a malicous site and the malicous site uses your browser to cause havoc, is Sandboxie going to be able to control the behavor of your browser?
but how much protection does drop rights in Sandboxie and LUA provide compared to 32bit Sandboxie? does drop rights and LUA also have kernal mode supervision? I guess we need to have us malware testers testing the containment of malware on 64bit pc's
Also as menthioned on the sandboxie forums Tzuk should team up with Ilya Defense Wall and also xiaolin Malware Defender to try and get MS to help here
with kernel support interfaces. Or if its possible to disable patchguard to give instructions as to how.
great news!! but no xp 64bit support ?? :/
i will try it on vm anyway ,report back when i am finished..
This is awesome!
For most users 64 bit is useless,only for powerusers such as CAD,Photoshop, Video ,Servers etc. it could be a benefit.
But only for office and webbrowsing 32 bit more then enough.
But MS dictate the hype and we have to follow suit ?.......!!!!!
Don,t ever expect MS to help disable patch guard. Also i doubt they can get too much support from MS, considering the market share of these vendors.
I think with time we might see it giving benefits to all users. Even now, atleast there is more security in 64 bit that is beneficial for ordinary users more than power users.
whats the point of staying in the past? technology naturally progresses and 64bit is the next step up after 32bit, it is inevitable.
Because new doesn't always mean better? (Note: That was meant towards the "staying in the past comment") Btw, both CAD and Photoshop run wonderfully here on this 32bit system. The hard fact is that the only reason 64bit will take over 32bit is because it'll be force-fed to us in the form of being on every new system bought.
I'm very surprised this even happened given the firm stance Tzuk had on not developing 64bit. Imho, 64bit is not widespread enough to have needed to change said stance, especially when it comes to the security of the product. Hopefully no "foot-shooting" has occurred, and, if it has, the ones who demanded the change share the blame for the wound. Just my 2c.
well in every retail store ive been to in my area, they only sell computers with 64bit Windows, so i think its pretty widespread or getting there.
I think that's exactly it. Many retailers I have seen are only selling 64bit windows. For example, from what I can tell, Dell UK are now only shipping 64bit windows. If it had been left to consumers demanding 64bit then it would have been a very slow transition, but retailers have decided it is easier for them if everything is 64bit. No need for a 'special' 64bit config for customer that want 64 bit.
Therein lies the great con-job perpetrated by hardware manufacturers whereby that 'state of the art' system bought a year ago is now considered old hat.
Great SB is gone 64 bit !! the MUST software in the wrold! good work TZUK
As an enthusiast gamer, I'd just like to point out that I enjoy having access to 6 GB of memory. Things go much smoother. And most modern games are currently hitting a 2 GB minimum requirement already, so the future looks rapidly shifting toward higher requirements.
A very small portion of the market, and a forgettable one, I realize. But at the same time, it's a reason you're not considering.
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