Running Nod on Demand VirusScan Enterprise in access

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  1. AnthonyG

    AnthonyG Registered Member

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    Hi, i run mcaffee virus scan enterprise 8. And i was wondering if it would be possible to set it up to have and to run nod32 as my on demand scanner.

    If it is possible how would i do that for these two AV (like i say i currently have installed and am running MVE8.

    Thanks
     
  2. Ianb

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    Anythings possible ;)

    A lot of people will advise against it but, if like me, you like to tinker with things (and are CONFIDENT you can restore to an earlier point) then just go ahead and try it. Install Nod then disable all the real time monitoring.

    I don't see any real advantage though.

    WARNING: I tried to run VSE 8.0i with Escan (both resident) just for a bit of fun :D and VSE resident got disabled and would not come back no matter what I did. :doubt:
     
  3. AVCC

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    You can't use NOD32 if your resident scanner is MVSE8i.
    MVSE8i has a very good resident security options and technics.
    Kaspersky will be better choice than NOD32 for on-demand scanner.
    Because, Kaspersky has bigger database than NOD32.
    MVSE8i + KAVP5 will be best.
    Regards..
     
  4. AnthonyG

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    Thanks but the reason why i am interested in nod is it is (i believe) a heuristics AV whereas Kaspersky and MVE8 are database AV. I would like to have them both compliment one another. I.e Best of Heuristics best of database (MVE:cool:.

    Also a few days ago i took a machine security test and i failed because part of the test was the program made up a new "virus" and asking if my AV could detect it (it couldnt) so i was hoping to do scans with Nod to see what is on my machine.

    I dont want to use nod as my main AV as IMO that is all it is a good AV, MVE (and kespersky) are the best at stopping everything, i.e trojans, spyware and my main concern diallers!!!.

    So can some MVE expert say if it is possable or a pie in the sky idea.

    Thanks
     
  5. Elliot

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    Admittely, I have tried your combination before.

    The point is: After disabling AMON, IMON and *MON, in order to made NOD32 totally away from residenting, you have to set manually its Service to 'manual'. After this, the on-demand scanner(not control center) will run without problem, however, you cannot update. To update, you've to manually start nod service, then use control center to do an update.

    And good luck.
     
  6. AnthonyG

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    Well if its not possible with nod32 in an on demand status how about norman AV on demand and MVE8 on access.

    I await the mods, AV experts replies in this thread as i have read a lot of posts by the experts in the past saying they do it with kaspersky and avast so im hoping to do it with MVE and a heuristics based AV.

    Thanks
     
  7. Blackspear

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    What other security are you running?

    Wilders advocates a layered defence as do I, you can see my setup HERE. As well there are discussions HERE and even more HERE.

    Hope this helps...

    Cheers :D
     
  8. BlueZannetti

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    Anthony,

    As the posts above imply. running multiple AV's can be both an art and a curse and its hard to predict the artistic finesse needed or when the dreaded curse will befall you.

    MVSE is an excellent AV. As a quick check, I assume that the test you refer to is the one referred to in this post. I tried running through it on my machine. I have decent settings. My current copy of NOD32 didn't flag the made up virus either. Go figure, it could simply be a somewhat bad test.

    If you basing your decision on the results of this single test, I'd recommend that you reconsider. Although the thought process behind you question is quite valid, the unintended consequences of potential system instability could outweigh the potential benefits given your current AV coverage.

    If you want to generically tighten your system, step back and take stock of what is running and where the vulnerabilities reside. I realize the test was done to partially assess that question.

    Just for reference, on my own machine I do have KAV WS and NOD32 available, but they are on different boot partitions on different physical drives. Only one is active in any context at any single time. Overall, NO32 is my primary with KAV WS as my referee backup. My choice is driven by performance and I will explicitly trade some minor vulnerability here and there for a boost in performance, although my experience is that tradeoff in coverage is pretty much nil with NOD32 (I do augment it with an AT - BOCLean - and that is a valuable component in the total system picture). A reasonably current snapshot of my own configuration is here

    Blue
     
  9. Ianb

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    Was this an online security test ? from a reputable company ?
     
  10. AnthonyG

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    I dont know but blue gave a link to my post with a direct link to the company with it. Im not sure how trustworthy the firm is though, one thing i did base my trust though in this test was it wasnt one of those sorts of tests that you take and says "you have failed, please purchase our product to fix your problem" so i trusted it. I am a member of quite a few forums (both computer specialist and non related to computers) and this test is going around them all.

    But like i say i am not sure how trust worthy the company is but if you had of asked the same question 6 months ago (before i came to wilders) about my opinion of kaspersky or javacoolsoftware i would have said i hadnt heard of those too (wilders has openend my eyes to the world of computers more so than i thought it possibly ever could).

    But if Nod failed that aspect of the test then my concerns regarding my security are lowering. Thank you blue for helping me with this.

    Thanks
    Anthony
     
  11. BlueZannetti

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    The test program does not present an overbearing message, but they do direct you to the VirusKeeper.com site which seems connected to the test program (install directory is AxBx, company listed under properties in executable is AxBx). There's nothing wrong with that and there is no attempt to hide the connection.

    The other thing, if I disallowed the registry addition, the test program basically hung for all time, which tells me there are a few additional issues with the implementation of that test, at least on my machine.

    Blue
     
  12. Ianb

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    Viruskeeper ? Looks a bit dubious to me. Can't find them at www.virusbulletin.com

    Where exactly is the link to this test ?
     
  13. Ianb

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    Found the link. Not going to install it though.
     
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