Rollback Rx v10.2 Released

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by guest, Aug 7, 2013.

  1. carfal

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    Well all of you that have been burned or feel hard done by HDS are free to continue venting.. after all, i did say it was good for the sole soul. :D :D

    So back to the business of RB v10.2. I've been using their latest build dated 19/08/2013 and i can say gleefully that i havent had any HD stopping issues. :p The couple of issues that i reported before this release seemed to be resolved for me. I'd like to know from anybody who has a GPT/UEFI W8 system to report on their experiences as mine is the old BIOS/MBR setup running W7x64. I'll just clarify that i havent tested all of the features of RB ( as small in number as they might be ) because all I'm interested in is the snapshot taking, restoring and of coarse defragging ability (this includes the boot console) and making sure that it is rock solid stable. I've even had the chance to test a couple of hard resets thanks to an elusive freezing issue that i've had for the past 2 months (nothing to do with RB so hold your horses everyone :blink: ). A chkdsk both times reported no issues.

    So all in all I am very pleased with this release. I look forward to the ability of taking separate snapshots for different partitions (in the next millenia :D )
     
  2. bgoodman4

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    FWIW I agree with carfal, at least for the most part. The demise of 123 was in large part due to the success of Excel. Poor management may have played a part but if there was not a solid alternate available I expect it would still be a going concern. This is why I say for the most part,,,,, AX64 is a competitor but its not exactly the same animal so only time will tell if Rxs shortcomings (residing on the protected drive and inability to protect the MBR for example,,,,and HDS) will lead to a shift away from Rx. AX64 is no way near as fast as Rx in both snapshot taking and restoration so the question is will folks see AX64 as a real alternative. I do but thats just me. Clearly carfal does not and he will no doubt continue to use both programs together to provide what can justly be seen as a more complete solution.

    I think its a dam shame that HDS are the folks behind Rx. With better management and customer service Rx would have a much higher value as a tool on ones PC. I am glad to have let it go but, at the same time, and to some degree, I am also sorry since it did serve me very well for years.
     
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  3. carfal

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    BG. I want to say a big thank you for writing what you did because i wasnt sure how to say it without stepping on anyone's toes.
     
  4. twl845

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    That's the way I feel as well. RBrx saved my bacon a few times, and worked well on my set up. But as said before, I don't like the fact that the snapshots are on my C drive, and that it messes with the MBR. Having to uninstall it to do a defrag was a PITA also. AX64 excels where RBrx fails.
     
  5. bgoodman4

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    Yes, all this is true, but still, I do miss Rxs speed at times,,,,,,def do not miss the slow boot times with Rx though. I guess its a case of giving something up in exchange for something, that is overall, much, much, better.
     
  6. TheRollbackFrog

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    <Ouch!> :D
     
  7. carfal

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    Oh sorry...I didnt see you there. You lept in from nowhere (ribbet) :)
     
  8. Masterblaster

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    Well, I was a long time user of RRX. Back to ver 7.
    The delays of RRX 10.1 allowed me to find AX64.
    Recently, HDS offered me a free ver of RRX 10.2 so I would return to that community.
    I assume they have lost a bunch of business over their delays and poor communication.
    Last night I installed RRX 10.2 and upon reboot, I was faced with a black screen which said "Missing Operating System". I about lost my dinner. I rebooted and again the OS would not load.
    RRX allowed me to uninstall itself and revert to the state prior to the installation. Thank God I got my system back. From this point forward, it's only AX64 for me.
     
  9. TheRollbackFrog

    TheRollbackFrog Imaging Specialist

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    Finally got around to an attempted test with the 28Aug version of v10.2... same exact result as MB's above. Have not been able to install v10.x to date so far.
     
  10. Baldrick

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    The term 'pants' springs readily to mind on hearing such tales of woe. And very big pants at that (British humour I am afraid...:D ).
     
  11. MarcP

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    The level of discontent with RBX 10.2 is rising on their forums. I am still staying clear of this product. When I hear of systems being ruined on the forums with no help from support, that should be enough of a red flag.
     
  12. bgoodman4

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    This is the way it has been for years,,,,why would you expect it to be different now?
     
  13. MarcP

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    I've been around a bit and it seems to be worse than ever before. Actual corruption of systems. Didn't that much in the old days with v9.1. I know support has always been non-existent, but full on system destruction?

    Stay away from this destructive software. They can't even protect your system if you use an imaging software to backup and later restore. It is a legit malware.
     
  14. zfactor

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    have had nothing but issues with the 10.2 version and honestly wouldnt touch it with a 10 ft pole... i could put it other ways also but ill be nice. it worked somewhat okay on one system with only minor issues. otherwise i have 2 other systems one with a no boot at all not matter what i did as long as it was installed. and the other would bsod as soon as it started a snapshot. im done.
     
  15. manolito

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    Anyone had a chance to test this new build?
    Version: 10.2
    Build: 2698586131
    Last Updated: 06 Sep 2013

    carfal?


    Cheers
    manolito
     
  16. carfal

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    manolito, i am currently running Build: 2698586131 and havent had any issues with it. In fact, i havent had any of the issues that these guys are reporting so i'm probably the exception and would be cautious if you want to try it.

    When RB v10.2.2696419340 was released on 08/08/2013 i had a BSOD issue once when i tried to explore a snapshot and also once a defrag operation froze on me from which i was able to recover gracefully without any data loss. But since the update v10.2.2696419340 dated 19/08/2013, i havent been able to reproduce these 2 issues so on my system at least they seem to be resolved.

    There are couple of "minor" issues that i'm waiting for a resolution for and they are

    1. After a defrag, you have to close the RB console window and open it again to see the new updated snapshot sizes. Also after boot time defrag, the snapshot sizes remain the same. If a manual defrag is now performed then the snapshot sizes curiously change ( after closing and restarting the console window).

    2. Restoring an image taken using a third party image program while RB was installed may have corruption in it. I havent tested this with this latest build (Build: 2698586131 ) and i dont plan to just yet because i want to wait for some slowdown in the updates that HDS are currently releasing.

    I think as long as you have a safe image of your HD taken BEFORE you install RB then why not give RB a try to see if it installs and runs on your system? If your not so inclined to be a guinea pig then perhaps you might want to wait.
     
  17. TheRollbackFrog

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    Manolito, I have been trying every version of v10, including the v10.2 version released on 06Sep, and have had NO SUCCESS with installing it on a very simple single partition SSD-based system (W7x86sp1).

    The application installs and following the initial BOOT attempt after the install, the system hangs on a black screen with a forever blinking <UnderScore> cursor or a "Missing Operating System" message. The only way out is to unINSTALL it via their sub-Console screen, which has been successful.

    Since I don't trust what they often leave behind after installation, I always image the system prior to the test, and revert back to that image (incl. the MBR) when my testing is complete.
     
  18. Smuck

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    Some say that under dual boot Windows 8 has ruined their other OS partition and deleted half its content during self-repair. Maybe Windows 8 doesn´t approve of Rollback software ...
     
  19. TheRollbackFrog

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    After working with their Senior Support folks for quite a while, an "anomaly" has been discovered in the interaction between BOOTldrs in use (Windows, the one I used from BootIce, possibly others) and the Rollback CONSOLE sub-system... it took a while to discover but their most recent FIX build for me finally did the job.

    If others (MasterBlaster?) would like to try this build, please PM me and I'll be happy to make it available for testing.
     
  20. Masterblaster

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    Thanks for the offer RollbackFrog but "testing" RRX really concerns me. Based on the communication I read in this forum, many posters are more knowledgeable on reverting software than I am.
    I have lost a complete system from an RRX issue before. The last time I tried it, I got the black screen with the blinking cursor and my heart almost stopped. I was very lucky to uninstall from the console (before that didn't work).

    I really miss RRX. It has also saved my bacon many times. I am currently running Windows 8.1 so AX64 isn't doing much for me either right now. I don't like being unprotected at all.
     
  21. twl845

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    With RB's record, I certainly wouldn't put a beta on my computer. The released versions are risky enough. :p
     
  22. MarcP

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    They already mentioned that RBX 10.3 is coming. Wonder how that will go...
     
  23. TheRollbackFrog

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    v10.2 hasn't even gone yet... :gack:
     
  24. TheRollbackFrog

    TheRollbackFrog Imaging Specialist

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    MB, Windows built-in imaging system is still available in Windows 8.1, just in a different place.

    Backup and Recovery of Windows 8.1

    This should make you feel a bit safer in the meantime...

    PS: and here's another tip using the same feature...

    Windows 8.1 Tip: Use System Image Backup
     
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  25. MrWeary

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    Has anyone noticed the img files seem huge on the new ver ?

    66.6 gig ? _ What ?
     

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