Rising AV - free edition

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by pykko, Jun 24, 2008.

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  1. L815

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    19mb is a stretch, but I can dig up a reason if I really worked at it :shifty:
     
  2. Kees1958

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    It should look like a green umbrella, but the shape is so simple that my wife thought is was a green mushroom!

    Subconscious taken over? There you go: no mushroom, but a magic mushroom. No kidding: L815 just tweak with its setting, set the OS-protection higher and try some installs, add your startup services to application protections (see my post), add explorer and all your internet facing aps to application access control and throw some malware/POC's at it, that will convince you.


    I did not install the file protection, so that could explain the difference

    In my current setup the total CPU time of all Rising components is definitely substantially lower than with Antivir, also CPU Benchmark of PC Wizzard is a tad better than with ThreatFire (surprisingly although TF used more CPU time than Antivir, the CPU Benchmark with TF was better than with Antivir).


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  3. bman412

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    I find something odd with Rising's file monitor. If I disable Smart Monitor from File Monitor's advanced settings, RAV detects the eicar test file when I download it. But with Smart Monitor on, it stays silent. Possibly a bug? Can someone test this please and see if it can be replicated.

    File Monitor settings at medium with added scanning for compressed files and self-extracting exe's.

    *edit: after a reboot everything seems to be going fine now
     
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  4. tesk

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    Strange, I keep getting a BSOD while trying to update the program. Uninstalled AVG, ran RegSupreme Pro, Installed Rising, trying to update and downloading them, but when it is installing the updates - BSOD!

    When I've tried it two times the program wont work anymore? Anyone who know how to fix it?

    XP Pro with Norton Antibot and Sandboxie running.
     
  5. Tony

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    How often does Rising update?
    Does it also update at weekends??
     
  6. Tarq57

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    I don't know, have never used it, but have you tried disabling Norton Antibot?
    Are you trying to run the Rising updater sandboxed?
     
  7. Kees1958

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    Tony,

    It can be set to look for updates every 2 hours. I do not know whether it really delivers in these intervals, but as shown in my first post, I received a 'push' update after sending them some issues within three hours.


    Run AVZ for fun and see where Rising fills in the hooks not covered by DW

    Regards
     
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  8. Kevin523

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    I have this exact same problem, but I'm running Vista SP1. I also find if you try to uninstall it you'll get a BSOD too. But when I update it BSODs, not during the download, but during the install of the update itself. Is this happening in your case?

    My previous AV was Antivir free edition which I uninstalled and rebooted before trying this program a few days ago.
     
  9. tesk

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    No I havn't tried that. But Norton is so simple that I can't amagine that. But I will give it a try!

    And it is not running sandboxed.

    I will be back! :cool: - With anwers! ;)
     
  10. tesk

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    Yeah it download the updates, but when it wants to install the updates it goes in a BSOD.

    Uninstall and Install, both works just fine! :)
     
  11. tesk

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    Sorry for bumping this thread :oops:

    It didn't work. I got a BSOD.

    It was while it tried to stop one of it modules. I've disabled the self-protection.
     
  12. Meriadoc

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    Comments have tweaked an interest in me to test - time to cover-up with this av.
    What's causing the bsods?
     
  13. tesk

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    I think it is the way the application is stopping it owns services.
     
  14. yxclark

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    Sandboxie + Rising = BSOD during Rising update.

    Their drivers both call the same SSDT hook and are incompatible with each other.
     
  15. tesk

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    You are absolutely right! Uninstalled sandboxie and it updates fine!

    Thanks :D

    Now I can run some tests.
     
  16. zopzop

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    anyone know how to make the HIPS in rising remember my answers? when my computer first boots and then i open up firefox, i keep getting the same warning (about firefox having access to the keyboard or something). i select allow and even check the box remember until next reboot. but it doesn't remember my selection.
     
  17. Kees1958

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    I have a simular problem with re-boot, does not seem to remember the answer. I fear the experience maturity model of a new discovered application: Hope, Hype, Help, Horror (first euphoria, than reality, like Twister). :D
     
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  18. Don johnson

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    Rising also has poor detection rate in China.
     
  19. Kees1958

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    I used the virusbuster DB of TF before, also not a first tier AV. I am only using its HIPS, have you seen what a candy box the custom setting of OS protection offers. With a policy sandbox, downloaded files are caged, so it is looks like what I needed: a HIPS focussing on the vulnarable static parts of your system.
     
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  20. Macstorm

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    how do you know this?
     
  21. bman412

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    There's an option to trust the application and add it to the whitelist. A bit hard to see on the warning gui. I dunno though if it is reversible or configurable.
     
  22. zopzop

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    @bman412

    found it thanks! kind of odd that it's so hard to see, i wish there was a way we could send suggestions to them. that option to trust the program should at least be highlighted and easy to see.

    i found the allow/deny whitelist. it's under the active defense tab. select settings, then select active defense. the a/d whitelist is right there. you can add or remove programs from there.

    i'm lovin' this AV :)
     
  23. bman412

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    found it! tyvm :)
     
  24. Don johnson

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    I'm a Chinese.Rising has pretty good market sector.Most of Chinese people don't like it.
     
  25. acr1965

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    What are the reasons they don't like it? And what are the antivirus programs of choice there?
     
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