Returnil

If you're not satisfied with Returnil you don't have to use it ErikAlbert. And just because a great software development originates in a country of a different tongue/language, pitting one app against another for that purpose is not what developers of Returnil had in mind i'm sure, but rather to offer the general users/business another more unique approach to this fine virtualization method.

I can't help but get the feeling you're reaching for difference only to feed some prejudice that this app does what that other app can't do mentality.

Returnil or any other app of this nature for that matter will always feature DIFFERENT methods then other similar types designed to be useful for security and protecting data/system and not for competition purposes as you elude to. That only incites needless nitpicking which always leads to useless arguement away from the real benefits all users need to learn of between similar products.

 

I don't know if this has already been mentioned but I'm getting 2 Returnil errors when I ask Perfect Disk for an offline defrag - apon reboot, returnil error 149011 and 189037, then it will defrag the system files in a black screen.

 

I can confirm this behavior on my system. RVS protection is OFF. System is XP Pro, latest version of PD. I haven't noted any after effects.

Blue

 

I think it can be too easy to focus on the minor inconveniences of using an appliance like Returnil. The advantages far outweigh the disadvantages. The big picture is what we need to focus on and this includes superb protection, stability and a GUI that couldn't be simpler.

 

I couldn't agree more.

@BOTH BlueZannetti & Meriadoc

Thank you both for bringing that up. I'm sure Coldmoon will address that concern with his reply soon.

Since i use UD i not noticed the same so hopefully it's something specific to PD that can be easily ironed out for you guys.

Returnil is a nice change from the norm so far and just think, this is only it's very first release so we are sure to find more features upcoming.

 

On the other hand, as I have to tell people I work with on occasion, I can only fix the problems that I know about. If I don't know about it, I can't fix it.

At this point, I don't see any untoward results and perhaps it is simply operational messages, and not really errors, reflecting certain system states that allows PD to perform it's defrag function. In any event, if it occurs, the question will pop up at some point and earlier is usually better.

Blue

 

The PD defragging issue seems to be related to the VP.

 

I can also confirm this bug.. I just did an offline defrag and got a BLUE scren with 2 ERRORS before the defrag starts..
Did these error did any harm to my computer? hmm
I have no VP partitions.. and RVS Protection is OFF.. So by right, RVS should not be activated at all yet it causes the erroR? hm

 

Just to help debugging, below is the PD bootlog...
DefragFs: NT Version: Major=0x5, Minor=0x1, Build=0xa28, CSD=Service Pack 2 (free).
DefragFs: BOOT start. Date: 6/24/2007, Time: 16:29:50.343 GMT.
DefragFs: Received Illegal Open, failing with error 0xc00000a2.
Name: '\RETURNIL\RVSYSTEM.DAT'.
DesiredAccess: 0x12019f.
Disposition: 0x1.
Options: 0x28.
Origin is system process -- probably ExWorkerItem
PDBoot: Pagefile Id = 27
PDBoot: Boot-time defrag status: Completed
PDBoot: Calling: NtShutdownSystem
DefragFs: NT Version: Major=0x5, Minor=0x1, Build=0xa28, CSD=Service Pack 2 (free).
DefragFs: BOOT start. Date: 6/24/2007, Time: 16:31:03.359 GMT.

 

Yes and no. Windblade's log points to that potential direction, but performing the challenge again with the VP dismounted and set not to mount on reboot yields no change in behavior/error messages, and no ill effects either...

Blue

 

Yes virtual partition dismounted and set not to mount on reboot - same result here also.

 

Hopefully Coldmoon can enlighten us on the cause of this error and what harm, if any, it caused..

 

This also happened to me today after a defrag.
I uninstalled RVS, reinstalled and the errors disappeared.

Maybe the problem is with moving the virtual partion.

I have turned off my schedueled defrag now anyways as i should no longer need to if there are no changes being made to my c drive.

 

I tried the off line defrag and had the same error messages and I didn't set up the VP. Like everyone else the defram seems to have worked fine.

 

Earth to Coldmoon, calling Coldmoon, we have an S.O.S. here. Please assist as soon as able.

Thank You

 

Sorry for the ignorance but... does Returnil protect other partions besides system partition like PS Full Shadow? I'm getting confused

 

only system partition...

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong. If Returnil protected all partitions, then you couldn't save data to your alternative partition or the VP right? I don't see this as a disadvantage as I have no data partition, or external devices to save to. I have to use the VP do to my current limited knowledge, but after 1 night of use, I do see the value in having a data only partition.

The VP is working great here and I was able to save 75.2MB of streaming music to the VP. I thought that might make a good test. I've been able to move files at will to and from the VP.

I also have been wondering about how and when to defrag with returnil and the VP. I did a defrag before I installed though.

For what it's worth and against all common sense. I did install RVS with PS 2.8.2 still installed. I haven't used their protection together and don't plan to. I just thought I would add my name to the list of those that have both installed. I also won't recommend it either do to the possible risks

edit: Easter, I haven't noticed any slowdown at bootup or shutdown.

 

i just started trying out retunil and i have avira security suite installed how will avira update?

 

Hi hyatt, with protection off you can do your updates. You can always enable protection after updates with session lock. This is what I do, I update my security software, then enable session lock which is the protection mode. After you enable protection, nothing is saved unless you save it to another partition other than your c: drive where windows is installed. You can also change the default save directory of avira updates, but that could be a pain and may not work.

Also, while in protection mode, if your using automatic updates for avira and don't change the default save location of the updates, it will continue to update, but the newest updates won't 'stick' after the reboot. You will be protected by the latest updates, but after you turn protection off, you will have to update it again for the changes to be permanent. Did that make sense?

 

makes perfect sense,can i change the update directory to the vitual drive(returnil)and if so do you have any idea how i do that?

to turn off protection i must reboot first right or am i missing a setting in returnil?

 

Someone else would have to help with that. I'm not sure it is possible either.

If your protection is currently on, you have to reboot to turn it off. The little backwards R icon in the tray is green when protection is off and red if it is on. You can also mouse-over the icon and it will tell you the status and if you click the S on the toolbar will give you the status.

edit: spelling

 

ok thanks innerpeace appreciate the help