Registry, Startup, how to turn off?

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  1. aoz

    aoz Registered Member

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    dear support,

    The following are the REGISTRY kehys for Acronis.
    I ONLY want to run acronis when I intend to do a full backup. I do NOT want these programs running in the background


    trueimagemonitor.exe


    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
    "Acronis*True*Image Monitor"="\"C:\\Program Files\\Acronis\\TrueImage\\TrueImageMonitor.exe\""
    "Acronis Scheduler2 Service"="\"C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Acronis\\Schedule2\\schedhlp.exe\""


    Can I DELETE these registry entries, and just run Acronis from the TrueImage Startup shortcut, and will it run OK

    OR, can I delete the above links, and just start them all when I want to start acronis?


    In short, please tell me what I can DELETE from the registry, so that nothing is running in the background, and what I need to then start up to get the program running corectly when I want to do a backup. (the programs can then STAY running until I shut down)
     
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  2. seekforever

    seekforever Registered Member

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    The AVG entries you have specified are for your AVG antivirus program from Grisoft - nothing to do with Acronis products.
     
  3. aoz

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    sorry -
    I edited it, left just the references to TrueImage

    thanks
    nick
     
  4. aoz

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    Re: Registry, Startup, SUPPORT - can you help?

    dear support,
    can you reply to my initial question, can I delete that registry entry, and just start the program manually when AI need it/
    THANKS
     
  5. foghorne

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    What OS are you using ?
     
  6. aoz

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    windows xp
     
  7. knowbodynow

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    Yes, I'd like to know the answer to this too - I'm running XP pro SP2. DiamondCS's RegProt keeps giving me messages that TrueImageMonitor.exe is making changes to the registry.

    CaH
     
  8. Allen L.

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    Best way to stop programs from starting is to use a program that will allow you to stop the exe startup from running, but give you the option to restart the program if you need to. Not the best for this, but you can use WinXP's msconfig. Go to Start>Run>"msconfig">click OK (remove the quote marks first). Go to the last tab, StartUp, and uncheck the box next to the program, or programs, you want to stop and be sure and check the "OK" button at the bottom of of the startup tab when you exit. One warning point about Acronis...you will need the service "schedhlp" to activate "Acronis Scheduler 2 Service". If you uncheck the box for it and then go to make a backup manually, you will fail as the service is needed for the ATI program to 'work'. You can stop the other two startup items with no harm. Leave the "schedhlp" box checked in msconfig, as it uses really no resourses if your not using the True Image program. If you want to start the program other than manually, you may need the other startup items running.

    ...Allen
     
  9. aoz

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    i only see two acronis items listed. the trueimage one, and the schedhlp one. do you have a third listing?

    what i'd like to do is just eliminate the registry entries, and just start them when i need them

    any other comments appreciated
     
  10. coppertrail

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    Actuallly, the best way (IMO) to control your Windows startup items (Registry and startup folder items) is a program called Startup inspector for Windows. It's freeware, and no PC should be without it :)
     
  11. Acronis Support

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    Hello everyone,

    Thank you for choosing Acronis Disk Backup Software.

    First of all, I should say that we do not recommend you to remove any items from the registry or edit your startup configuration in any way. Otherwise we can not guarantee the proper functioning of Acronis True Image. Thus you can do any changes only on your own risk.

    Here is some explanation on what Acronis resident programs\processes do:

    schedul2.exe - Acronis scheduling service. This service is started on the computer startup and remains active until the computer is turned off. It is used by Acronis software to start scheduled tasks. Note that Acronis True Image always schedule image creation tasks, even if you start the "Image creation" operation. Thus if you stop Acronis scheduling service, then you loose the ability to create images in Windows.

    schedhlp.exe - Acronis scheduling service helper. This program monitors the logons and logoffs in the running system and notifies Acronis scheduling service about them. It is started when a user logs into the system and terminates when the user logs off. Acronis True Image uses this program to schedule tasks on user logon/logoff and to run non-scheduled "Image creation" operation.

    TrueImageMonitor.exe - Acronis True Image Monitor. This program provides the interface between running Acronis True Image tasks and the user. It allows to observe the tasks progress and cancel the running tasks. It is started when a user logs into the system and terminates when the user logs off. This program is not required by Acronis True Image to perform its tasks, and can be terminated if you think it occupies too much memory, but you will loose the ability to control running Acronis True Image tasks.

    All Acronis resident modules uses very little amount of physical memory in normal state (when no imaging or other task is performed) since operating system swaps them off to the swap file on the hard disk.

    Thank you.
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  12. aoz

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    Alexey,
    I thank you VERY MUCH for your reply. That is what I was looking for.

    first, even a LLITTLE overhead on my system becomes consequential (I have about 300 programs installed)
    I just want to make a clean install, bootup, etc.
    I do NOT mind experimenting with my machine (I have MULTIPLE MULTIPLE protedctive backups to restore from)

    My IMPRESSION of your reply (correct me if I'm wrong) is that I could PROBABLY stop all three tasks, take them out of the registry, as LONG AS I restart them before I start doing TrueImage Backups (I have NO scheduled tasks to do; I always manualy start the backup)

    If i delete these, I always to a registry EXPORT, so I can restore the settings if I need them

    I UNDERSTAND that acronis holds no liability, responsibility, risk, etc, if my computer blows up, catches on fire, etc, etc, etc..... :)

    Please just confirm my above impressions.


    ALSO, re: the startup program mentioned in an above reply, I may try that also, and do appreciate your reply

    Nick
     
  13. aoz

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    to Coppertrail,
    thank you for your reply also.

    I downloaded the routine. It shows me my startup programs.

    IF I DESELECT them, what happens to those links; does the Startup routine act as an intermediary and just not start them? OR, does it permanently delete settings for those?

    If they get DE-selected, can I RE-select them?

    ALSO, is there a way to save a couple different panels of data for startup (example, FULL startup, and CLEAN startup?)
    thanks
    Nick


    there is a similar program, Startup Cop, from PC Magazine, which did similar actions, but did NOT tell you what each item was for; these details are invaluable with your referenced program

    thanks
    Nick
     
  14. Allen L.

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    schedul2.exe is the one file you need and it is activated from services. You could delete the registry entries for the other two, except I don't think one of those is listed in the registry in the usual place. Then go to Run>services.msc>"Go" and at the very top is the Acronis Scheduler 2 service which you will need to start. If this service item will stay in 'place' after you delete the schedul2.exe registry entry, then you could just disable the service and go back to services and start it when you want to manually use Acronis.

    Personally I don't recall you mentioning how much memory you have installed in your computer, but you should have the maximum as anyone that has the need for 300 programs should have a large amount.

    ...Allen
     
  15. knowbodynow

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    I decided to get rid of trueimagemonitor.exe from startup. I've tried using Counterspy and Autoruns, both of which should block items from starting up - but they don't stop trueimagemonitor.exe which keeps making changes to the registry. It's behaving like spyware (not suggesting that it is). I'm wondering about using HijackThis to get rid of it. If it's only purpose is to allow users to cancel running tasks then I have no use for it. Last time I tried that I trashed my system and had to use Disk Director to get my partition back. I only run tasks manually so I don't need anything to start automatically. Just like to confirm that deleing it won't stop me using True Image.

    Thanks,

    CaH
     
  16. aoz

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    Allen,
    thanks for reply.

    I install a lot of test programs, etc, things that I run only very infrequently. SOME of those don't install auto-startup items; some do. I try to keep the installs very clean, etc, etc.

    I have multiple computers that I test stuff with; My main one at home and my tablet PC with me, are the two main ones.
    I have at least 1 gig memory in each, external hard drives, etc, etc, etc....

    I don't mind the volume of stuff; as long as I keep the stuff cleaned up, the systems do well.

    thanks again
    NIck
     
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    As a startup manager, I use WinPatrol, which will provide info on startup programs. It's also freeware with more comprehensive program info if you purchase the PLUS version ($25). I'm not opposing coppertrail's recommendation as I've never tried Starup Inspector, just offering another alternative to look at.

    More specifically, you can "disable" a startup item. This leaves it in the registry but blocks its actual startup, defeating (at least some) software that will repeatedly add itself back to the registry if you remove it. You can then "enable " a startup item when you want it to run (whether it needs a reboot to restart, I unfortunately don't know at this point -- it probably varies). http://www.winpatrol.com
     
  18. aoz

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    Thahks for reply on WinPatrol.
    That's what I'd like to actually do; not change the registry (if I can avoid it) but just keep the item from starting. I don't mind restarting if I need the program.
    does winPatrol have different profiles that you can save?

    thanks for info
    Nick
     
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    I'm afraid not, Nick.

    WinPatrol's main function is as "watchdog" software. It'll pop up and ask for your approval for and provide info on anything that you add or that adds itself to your Startup Programs (it'll pull them in from more than one place and show you more than msconfig will). It also provides info on and monitors Browser Helper Objects, Scheduled Tasks, Services, Active Tasks (likeTask Manager), Cookies, File Type Associations, and a few other system parameters.

    That's more info than you asked for but, since it isn't specifically designed for startup configuration profiles, I thought I'd give you the quick rundown on what it IS designed for.
     
  20. Allen L.

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    I use this program to clean my registry and also to control the startup items. The program has other options, but I don't use them. This program is rated very highly in not deleting any registry entries in it's cleaning that are damaging...unlike most to the other registry cleaners. What is good about the program, all functions have a backup made automatically and you have many options plus a great simple interface. Most of all the program is free! .

    Get it here and turn off what startup items you want and they will be edited out of the registry automatically and then 'greyed' out of the listing box. To re-start any of them is just a matter of a right click and then the option to 'undo' will appear. Program is "RegSeeker":
    Code:
    http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm 
    Trust me, you'll like the way it works.

    ...Allen
     
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    I recommend you leave your registry well alone and disable these services via the Service Control Manager, which can be found under Control Panel\Administrative Tools\Services. Locate the appropriate Services change the startup mode to Manual (rather than Automatic), and stop each Service running.
     
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    Good point. For Windows Services, I totally agree. Alternative access is "services.msc" from the "Run..." prompt.
     
  24. aoz

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    This thread has been very useful. I thank all of you so far for info.

    Another routine that is good is PcMagazine's newer version of an older one, Startup Cop Pro 2.
    Pc Magazine has download utilities, they used to be free, but now have a nominal (3 to 6.00) fee attached; even less if you subscribe to their complete download file.

    the Startup Cop does allow multiple profiles also

    try www.pcmag.com, search for startup cop
    nick
     
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    Hi foghorne,

    I tried that myself ages ago but I'm afraid it doesn't work. Only one of the three processes is listed under Services, namely Acronis Scheduler2 Service (a.k.a. schedul2.exe). Even if you set the "Startup Type" of that one to "Manual", you'll find that schedhlp.exe starts it running the next time you boot into a Windows session.

    Regards
     
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