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Discussion in 'other software & services' started by Rico, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. Rico

    Rico Registered Member

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    Hopefully Help will come:

    I'm positive my Win 10 machine is malware free, learned to keep clean from years on this forum. Many different scans show no malware!

    Win 8 & 8.1 were very speedy compared to Win 10

    Dell 64 bit, 16 Gb ram, 3.40 Ghz processor.

    I've updated from "Dell" bios & chipset, & do not believe more recent updates are available from dell.

    I believe the sluggishness is due due to memory leaks from drivers

    Intel's driver tool always says 0 & 0 available.
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    How can I find/get the most recent win 10 drivers, for my system.


    Thanks
    Rico
     
  2. roger_m

    roger_m Registered Member

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    Performance issues are most likely not due to driver issues. However, it won't hurt to update them. Almost always the drivers avilable from your computer manufactuer's website our outdated.

    If you want to try updating your drivers, I highly recommend Driver Booster. It automatically installs driver updates without you having to do anything manually. Driver update software sometimes finds incompatible driver updates which can cause problems, however with Driver Booster this is extremely rare. There is a paid version which in some cases will find more drivers and has faster download speeds. At the moment you can a license for the paid version, free as a giveaway. Just do a Google search for driver booster giveaway, and the first result should a link to the giveaway page at mostiwant.com.
     
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    In my experience, the most common cause of slowdowns if you have plenty of RAM installed (like you do) is antivirus software. Some AV software can cause very noticable slowdowns.
     
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  5. Rico

    Rico Registered Member

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    Roger M, Kimosbe, Many thanks.

    I'll reply back, or a little later if I have to restore

    Thanks Again Guys
    Rico

    forgot AV = EIS
     
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    If HDD not a SSD then 3rd party defragger.
     
  7. Rico

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    Hi Guys,

    #1 Driver Booster, is yet another example, of software which will improve your system. At a price, regardless of free promotions. This software will install unwanted software, after installation of "Driver Booster", this is unwanted, nor necessary. MOD's & all others, review this software only from a virtual environment

    #2 Ron Thanks, used to be "recommended" & "Other", how do you see other in 10?

    #3 HDD, thought progressive versions of Windows, made this UN-neccary function.
     
  8. roger_m

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    @Rico If you uncheck the offer to install Advanced SystemCare, then nothing else will get installed. Once, it's been installed, then no further software gets downloaded. The free version is fully functional, as it will install any driver updates found. However, in some cases the paid version will find a few more driver updates. If you get the giveaway license, then you can use all the pro features for a year.
     
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  9. Rico

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    Hi Roger,

    Yes I understand opt out, our remove check mark. Did not expect after the fact this guidance from here. Nor wood many viewing this thread! Your sig. seems to install, software, from "Drive Booster", that is mentioned in your sig here!

    Please explain....

    Ron > dev mgr > r click driver > update > wait seems to be the way to go, without unwanted icons on the desktop

    Thanks amigo
    Rico

    zapjb - are defragers still relevant in win 10?
     
  10. roger_m

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    @Rico I am currently using the trial version of the beta of IObit Malware Fighter 4. I like it because it has no noticable impact in system performance on my Core 2 Duo laptop. However, I may switch to something else when my trial license expires (probably to something free). If you have a look at some of my posts here, you will see that I'm continually trying different antivirus software. I recommended Driver Booster since it automatically installs the drivers, rarely installs incompatible drivers, and the free version is fully functional (unlike most driver update software which requires you to purchase a license before they will let you update your drivers). However, I have recommended other driver update software here before such as Driver Talent/Drive The Life, and have several other driver update tools installed on my PC.

    It is unlikely Device Manager will find many (if any) driver updates, and a 3rd party driver update software tool would almost certainly find more. But, as I mentioned in my first post here, it is highly unlikely that your performance issues would be caused by drivers.

    Defragging often won't lead to much a speed increase as the included defrag in Windows works very well these days, and by default in Vista and more recent versions of Windows, it will do a defrag in the background automatically once a week.
     
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  11. Rico

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    @roger_m,

    Post #1 was in regards to a known driver mem leak in win 10, thus it's existence.

    Since last trying Driver Booster, I uninstalled it

    Ran Intel's driver updater tool, consistently finds 0, despite this machine have quite a few of there drivers. Updating from dev. mgr. found 1 driver video driver.

    Today installed Driver Booster in a virtual enviorn. to observe. Reboot , made a restore point, & full Macrium backup/image.

    Reinstall Driver Booster and, was pleased when the program, made a restore point, allow it to update 18 drivers, reboot & all is well.

    Sorry for any harsh remarks posts 7 & 9.

    FYI - I also tried windows 10 troubleshooting for sound, which asked to choose the best sound from notes played, after that had to turn the volume up full blast, just to hear the speakers. Used a restore point & all was well. I was nervous about this driver, with Driver Booster, but it updated smoothly the Realtek sound driver.

    I'll try this on a few other machine & see how it goes.
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    Last, one site said watching resource meter, 'memory', should be a steady line, & spikes would indicate, mem loss (assumed nothing on going, or just observing), pre drive booster, idle not doing anything, mem usage was flat line 21%. After update all drivers, listening to sirius internet radio, via chrome (no listening prior), mem flat line 14%. I don't know if this is significant, but seems impressive.

    Thanks
    Rico
     
  12. roger_m

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    @Rico I'm glad to hear that Driver Booster is working for you. The reduced memory usage is good. How is your performance now? Has there been any improvement in the computer's performance?
     
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    Idk. But since W10 is not Linux I'd think so. Idk though. Anybody know for sure?
     
  14. roger_m

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    @zapjb As I already posted the included defragmenter in Windows works very and automatically runs weekly, so there's no need to run a 3rd part defragmenter or manually do a defrag. Some 3rd party defragmenters work better than the Windows one, but usually there is not a significant difference.

    So basically, you won't have any siginficant fragmentation issues if you do nothing, as Windows will take care of it automatically. But, you may get slightly better disk performance with a 3rd party defragmenter.
     
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    Idk w10 at all disclaimer. But in W7 & below windows built in defragger whether considered good or bad would sometimes work poorly, not at all, take half a day or more or never complete. So even if one was in love with the built in defragger I think it's prudent to have a supported 3rd party defragger around just in case.
     
  16. Rico

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    The overall improvement is slight to modest. I don't believe I actually had a driver mem leak. Nice to know this is a legit app. that works, without payment. Similar to MBAM or SAS free actually work, without pay. My past experience with 'driver' update programs, was they would list, then to actually, update, you had to pay.

    Why is it that these programs, can find updates, when using/viewing: Intel or Dell etc. they claim you have the latest greatest. Do these driver update companies kick back $$$, to companies, so they have the latest greatest. Then six months down the road, the OEM offers the update, to the public?
    NOTE: Intel & Dell said up to date, but Driver Booster find(s), fresher version, from the same vendor.
     
  17. roger_m

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    @zapjb If you were having problems with the Windows 7 defragmenter, then there were probably problems with your Windows install. It should just run automatically silently in the background (you've won't see it running) once a week, with no need to ever run it manually unless you want do defragment an external drive. I don't love the the Windows defragmenter, but benchmarking has shown that there is little difference in performance between it and 3rd party defrag tools.
     
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    I disabled it. Before I got an SSD I was using a 3rd party defragger.
     
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    Typically computer manufacturers only provide driver updates for around 6 months after a computer is released. After this they will stop updating the driver page for that computer, even though for most devices the device manufacturers will continue to release updated drivers. Occasionally, if there is a critical driver update they will list that, but won't provide updates for the other devices. This a shame, considering a good quality computer can last for years (the Thinkpad I'm typing this on is over 7 years old, and I plan on getting a few more years use of out it).

    Also, as well as providng driver updates for only a very short period of time, computer manfacturers usually won't provide drivers for future versions of Windows, unless the new version of Windows was release shortly after the computer was released (e.g. if a computer came with Windows 8.1 installed, and soon after that model was released, Windows 10 was released).

    So, you can see why Dell didn't show any driver updates, even though there were updated drivers avilable. With regard to Intel updates, I find it quite common for driver update software to find driver updates when the Intel software finds none.
     
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    Lenovo is AWESOME with driver support in every way.
     
  21. Rico

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    Roger_m -- Thanks follow the money, example Dell sells driver updates to 3rd party, withholds update, to visitors, Dells site. This enhances 3rd party. How (this scenario) is Dell enriched.

    Silly question, should Dell just, add to there list,of updated drivers for user, equals zero money gained. Sell latest greatest 'driver update' to third party, Dell is enriched $$$, for something that may or may not be used by individuals, visiting Dell support. Driver Updating programs win, via, selling licenses to there programs.

    This explains:

    Intel driver update tool finds zero updates, but Driver Booster etc. find many Intel drivers to update

    Dell go to your machines download page, I've got all those, run Driver Booster etc & they find drivers, you don't see.

    Full circle!
     
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  22. roger_m

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    @zapjb Yes, they are very good at support. Much better than just about all other manufacturers.
    It's not quite like that. The majority of updates come straight from the actual device manufacuters (e.g. Intel, nVidia, Realtek, etc). There are very few Dell specific devices. Dell may do some tweaking of drivers to suit their hardware, and a driver from Dell may work better than a more recent "generic" one.
     
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    @roger_m Hi,

    Tried drive booster on an older laptop all went smooth

    Next wifes Lenovo Yoga 3 <fortunately> I made a full macrium image before, installing drive booster.

    It hung at updating "Bluetooth" driver 2+ hours & only 40% completed with that driver. Turn off DB, tried several restore points both failed.

    Changed bios to legacy boot, boot from external USB cd/dvd drive, Amazing 6 minutes to restore.
     
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