Puran Defrag Free Version 7.3

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by cgeek, Apr 9, 2011.

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  1. cgeek

    cgeek Registered Member

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    Release Notes:
    Version 7.3 Disk Check is now divided into two parts, normal disk check and full disk check.

    Link to version 7.3
    -http://www.puransoftware.com/Puran-Defrag-Download.html-
     
  2. moontan

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    tnx for the heads up m8! :)

    Puran is well liked here @ Wilders.:thumb:
     
  3. cgeek

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    Moontan, your welcome!

    Regards.
     
  4. J_L

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    Thanks, downloading right now.
     
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    Thanks for update :thumb:
     
  6. Yakuman

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    Is it normal to have half of an OS partition filled up as metadata fileso_O Also, is it possible to make them contiguous instead of scattered around like in this ugly pic? I also wonder why my data (D:) partition has one block of metadata. They're both NTFS filesystems if that matters.
     

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    do a boot time defrag.

    make sure the PIOZR option in not checked.
     
  8. doktornotor

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    Man, your OS partition is way too small... Make it at least twice that size so that there is some chance to decently defrag this and more importantly so that it does not end up this horribly fragmented in next two weeks again. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Yakuman

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    I already did both not that long ago, but will try again later.


    Actually, I used EASEUS Partition Master to shrink it from 75 GB down to 12 GB because I don't install many programs, I don't need that much extra space. I've confirmed that the smaller the partition, the more inflated the picture looks. And how can you say it's horribly fragmented when Puran reports 0% fragmentation? Defragmented and contiguous are two different states :cautious:
     
  10. doktornotor

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    Lookie, with MFT, registry, page file and other "unmovable" stuff scattered all over the disk, can you imagine how horribly inefficient the I/O operation is? Seriously working with 2 gigs of disk space left is no good no matter what Puran thinks.
     
  11. Yakuman

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    Well, I did a boot-time defrag again and it still couldn't make the metadata files contiguous. Whether this is important or not is another question.

    As for performance, I notice absolutely no difference from before the partition resize. Windows still boots up in less than 30 seconds. File operations, application loading times, and so on are the same :isay:. If you can provide any evidence stating otherwise, I would appreciate it.
     
  12. sbseven

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    You don't have enough free space to allow Puran Defrag to sort out the metadata files.

    Before and after will be the same, all you did was reduce free space. I would suggest expanding the partition to around 30GB and doing a boot-time defrag with all the options. Nothing to lose by trying that. You could then reduce the partition a bit after that. (I'd leave it at 30GB). You might not shave anything further from boot-up, but that's only part of the performance story. Having your metadata files that fragmented can't be good, surely?

    Edit - Below is mine for comparison...
     

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  13. Yakuman

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    Before when it was 75 GB, the metafiles weren't exactly nice looking either, so that can't be the reasono_O
     
  14. sbseven

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    The largest "metadata" file is the paging file. It could be that scattered over the drive.

    You could try moving the paging file temporarily to the D: drive (or just delete it). Reboot and then run an analysis with Puran Defrag of the C: drive. If the paging file was the culprit, the cluster map will now be full of holes. You can then defrag and setup the paging file on the C: drive again.

    I would still recommend increasing the size of your OS partition to at least 20-25GB.
     
  15. Page42

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    Thanks, cgeek!
    Geez, I must have missed a couple versions... I have 7.0 installed.
    Think it's okay to upgrade over top?
    :)
     
  16. moontan

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    i just did this morning.
    everything went fine.
     
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    Love this program.
    Thanks for the reply, moontan.
    I'll write myself a note to upgrade tomorrow.
    :cool:
     
  18. doktornotor

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    It is the reason you cannot defrag them. Because frankly there is not enough space to defrag pretty much anything bigger on your box.
     
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    True that. For the longest while I wrestled with the limitations of a too-small HD on one of my systems, trying to nurse every bit of life and performance I could out of it, instead of simply swapping it out for a larger HD. I recall that in order to defrag the drive, I would reset the page file to zero in order to give myself an extra 1-2 GBs of space, thus allowing the defrag op to run. Lots of performance issues can crop up when too little HD or partition space is available. Yakuman should give himself plenty of breathing room. It's a luxury he can afford. :)
     
  20. doktornotor

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    Yeah, would have to disable paging file and hibernation temporarily... Then again, not really a solution. Not to mention that Windows will increase the swap file when you hit some bad memory leak... when it happens and you run out of disk space, you have lots of "fun". o_O
     
  21. J_L

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    I install Linux on my too-small HD's. Plenty of room to breath there.
     
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    I even recall temporarily moving the 3GB Outlook Express folder off of that drive in order to be able to defrag it... things were that tight.
    If I am not mistaken, doesn't Disk Defragmenter start griping when it sees less than the required 15% free space?
     
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    That would be a whole new adventure for me. :)
     
  24. doktornotor

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    The bundled one with Windows for sure used to... For others, some do, some do not, basically trying a best effort job and move at least something. Again, will not be really effective as already noticed here.

    As for the performance hit - remember that the HDDs are the slowest component on your PC. Thousands of times slower than reading from RAM. So, having such a heavily fragmented disk like here surely shows.
     
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    One of the best Free Apps ever made! :thumb:
     
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