Protonmail, have people gotten their invitations?

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by cb474, Jan 16, 2015.

  1. cb474

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    Just wondering if anyone has gotten their invitation to Protonmail recently.

    It's been a month since they posted in their blog that they had expanded their infrastructure and would be inviting most people over the following month. See: https://blog.protonmail.ch/infrastructure-upgrades/.

    I haven't gotten an invitation yet, but was having a issue with my current email and would hate to have had the invitation get lost in the shuffle.
     
  2. dogbite

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    Got it a few weeks ago. My request was made in June 2014.
     
  3. cb474

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    Thanks dogbite.

    Anyone get an invitation who made a more recent request?
     
  4. _Tempus_

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    Did also received my invitations for a couple of weeks ago. Asked to be sign up, in the beginning of November 2014. It's going to be a bit exciting to follow their progress..
     
  5. cb474

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    Yeah, I really am looking forward to getting an invitation and seeing what it's like.
     
  6. atunis5804

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    I did - actually, I am one of the first users. great email client!
     
  7. dogbite

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    It seems promising, I want just to wait a bit longer to make it my main email. Also, I want to see the mobile app.
     
  8. Reality

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    Just got my invite. Cant remember when I applied, but it was probably around mid last year.
     
  9. StillBorn

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    Submitted a request roughly five weeks ago-- no invitation feedback yet. BTW, I recently confirmed on their website PM will be compatible with Thunderbird.
     
  10. cb474

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    Yeah, that's about the timeframe of when I submitted my request. Sounds like even the newly built out infrastructure is having trouble keeping up with the level of interest.
     
  11. PaulyDefran

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    Sounds good. Hopefully, local keys and alias' will soon follow.
     
  12. cb474

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    By the way, Tutanota has a feature request system: https://tutanota.uservoice.com/forums/237921-general

    They are planning to implement aliases. Local keys seems like it may be outside the intentions of their system. Don't know. But you could request it. They seem very interested in feedback and motivated to add a lot of features.
     
  13. deBoetie

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    From what I've read of this class of system, they are not about storing local keys. The problem with doing that is that you are immediately localised and have a user key management problem.

    I think - rightly - they are offering easy-to-use fairly secure mail, which also addresses the metadata problem. After all, the alternative with pgp has been there and good (apart from the metadata), but has not been widely adopted because of the key-management issues being too techie.
     
  14. StillBorn

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    Sure is a nice and busy array of words ya got going on there, deBooty...:cool: I guess I'll take that as an affirmative nod that you approve of protonmail's security model. /Let me me have men about me that are fat. Sleek headed men and such as sleep o' nights.
     
  15. deBoetie

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    Et Tu-tanota?
     
  16. cb474

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    I think that's right. But I wonder if it would be hard to allow localized keys, for those who want to deal with it? There's no reason it has to be an either/or.
     
  17. deBoetie

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    They could do both, at this stage I'd prefer them to focus on the core proposition and making that tight and easy to use, adding TFA, and getting audits of the software & service. Particularly the javascript encryption validation. And going through the normal bug cycle.
     
  18. StillBorn

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    DeBoetie said:
    Et Tu-tanota?

    Touche'. Absolutely brilliant!! :D
     
  19. cb474

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    Yeah, I thought that was pretty good too.
     
  20. deBoetie

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    The perils of a classical eddication. Thanks for the laughs chaps, good fun.
     
  21. StillBorn

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    Still not a peep from PM. Starting to wonder if I should apply all over again. A less than 20-seconds ordeal, although it may confuse matters at their end. Seriously wondering at this point if my request for an account got lost in the shuffle.
     
  22. ComputerSaysNo

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    Where the hell is my protonmail.ch invite? I applied for an account 2 months ago and I've heard nothing since.

    Maybe they are just overwhelmed by the number of people wanting to sign up?
     
  23. cb474

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    I think they are overwhelmed. I read somewhere that hundreds of thousands of people (if I'm remembering correctly) have made requests.

    I saw in their twitter feed that someone asking about invites was told to contact their "contact" email address to get an update. I emailed them, told them I was excited to get the invite (but no pressure, since I know they're working hard and there is a lot of interest), and they responded a day or two later and sent me my invite (I applied at the beginning of December). So if you're anxious to get yours, you can try asking nicely. It worked for me.

    So far it works well. The interface is simple, but nice, and they're planning a lot more features.

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    I've been trying Tutanota also. I like it too. The devs there have lots of plans for new features (see: https://tutanota.uservoice.com/forums/237921-general) and are super nice and responsive to suggestions and questions. Ultimately, I think the way Protonmail is handling owning their own physical servers and the location in Switzerland is more robust. And I don't fully understand the benefit of requiring two passwords, but I assume that is also more secure. But if you want multiple email addresses for different purposes, Tutanota is a nice option (and no waiting!).
     
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  24. StillBorn

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    @cb474 Thank you for posting your Tutanota observations. Lately I've had more than a passive interest in in them also. You've definitely piqued my curiosity.
     
  25. cb474

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    StillBorn, you're welcome. Tutanota is definitely worth checking out. I'm looking forward to seeing how it develops.

    And, of course, if you don't mind paying some money, Countermail seems like the best of these types of email services. It's been around longer. Has a lot of features. Is very serious about security and how it handles its servers. Many Wilders members seem to like it. So it's a much more complete service at this point.

    I only wish it did not rely on java. Tutanota and Protonmail seem to have found a way to have a similar functionality, with an app that runs in the browser and does encryption on you system, without using java. Perhaps there's something better for Countermail about using java, I don't know. On the other hand, you can use Countermail with Thunderbird and completely forego the browser, currently not an option with Tutanota or Protonmail.
     
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