PrevX vs Symantec "Quorum"

Discussion in 'Prevx Releases' started by Longboard, Oct 2, 2009.

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  1. Longboard

    Longboard Registered Member

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    Hello PrevX...do you need to do something to reestablish primacy here ..?
    Symantec is busy pushing out PR about Quorum..
    AFAICS it's "herd intelligence in the cloud" type application( lol acronym Head in the Clouds ??)
    You letting them steal the front running here ??
    :doubt:
     
  2. Triple Helix

    Triple Helix Webroot Product Advisor

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    They can call it what ever they want doesn't mean it's better! :p

    TH
     
  3. Longboard

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    Yah: not suggesting that
    Just watching as symantec snows all the 'news' outlets with sprays about how cool 'Q" is = BIG PR budget.

    Just suggesting to PrevX to get on the front foot with their message before the 'cloud landscape' goes all yellow and black. :)
     
  4. TonyW

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    I don't know about Prevx, but it's interesting to note that despite the "herd intelligence in the cloud", Symantec still has about 4m unclassified files if the Insight Network figures are anything to go by.
     
  5. Longboard

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    Will be interesting when threads start popping up re implementation of the new Symantec tools and strategies and then subsequent problems.
    cf Matt's testing: from http://remove-malware.com/videos/norton-internet-security-2010-review/
    They still fail to properly handle "high risk files" in many ways.

    This not meant to be about NIS: just an observation of my tracking of Symantec saturating the ground and flag waving like crazy..

    Do NOT want PrevX to fade into the background. :)
    I'm sure PrevX has a good PR strategy, just dealing with the $$$ available to Symantec PR must be a bit daunting.

    Tricky stuff the market profile: eg: at my local 'big box' retailer: hundreds of copies of NIS on the shelves, followed by dozens of McAfee, V. rarely some lost dusty ESET box in the corner, beside the AVG box..that's it.
    LOL,
    Avira ..."Wot no we dont sell the Flu Vaccine sir"
    DefenceWall.."Wot is that..think you want the garden section for snail killers sir".. LOL.
    PrevX.."Wot..you might need to go to the pharmacy for personal hygiene needs sir"
    Sandboxie: " I think you want Toys'R'Us sir."
    ;)

    Reps in there on and off discounting etc etc
    I know , nothing special about confused floor staff..but they can have a lot of POS influence on the public.

    Realistaically there should be some semiserious instructions re the stae of the web these days: need a license for a car, cant drink till 17, the web is a food chain...the 'operators' see most computer users as schools of herring..
    Ok: enough babbling..:blink:

    Not sure how to help PrevX other than direct person to person push: ??
     
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  6. Triple Helix

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    Honestly this it the Prevx Support Forum who cares about Norton? I don't and never will! I just don't see why you started a thread like this here you should go post this in the other anti-malware software forum

    A This vs That

    TH
     
  7. Phantasm

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    Yeah /close
     
  8. Pleonasm

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    Actually, empirical evidence suggests that Norton Internet Security 2010 provides superior protection, as documented here: “Norton's performance was absolutely stellar. It scored 8.0 of 10 points for malware removal, beating previous top scorer Panda Internet Security 2010. It also set a new record on the malware blocking test: 9.6 points, trumping Prevx 3.0, the previous champion and our Editors' Choice for standalone anti-malware.”

    For my own intellectual curiosity, I would very much like to hear the thoughts of Prevx on differences between their technologies and those used by Symantec in Norton Internet Security 2010. The objective isn’t to argue “which is better,” but to understand more about the approaches used by different vendors (each of which must have advantages and disadvantages relative to the other).
     
  9. Longboard

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    Hey TH: breathe :) I'm not trying to be obtuse..and you are missing the point.
    I've been a licensee since CC days, 2006, and a user prior to that. ;)
    Even then Wilders members and others were vigorously supportive of PX.

    The thread was prompted by me being generally po'd with the way Symantec is flooding the web with NIS 2010 publicity and looking for some response from PX re marketing.
    Currently, I think PX has better heuristics, better GUI, better installation and a better approach to handling unknown and high risk files.
    There is a MUCH better interaction with endusers and good response to any issues or critiques.

    I dont doubt PX has a marketing strategy: wanted to enquire re putative response to the current profiling of NIS and how "I" could help: don't get upset: just a 'discussion' topic re promoting a great tool and maintaining profile of PX.

    Thanks for your opinion: By all means if this has gone down wrongly: and something seems to have pissed you off !! , let PX close the thread: cest la vie.
    If PX chooses not to respond so be it: nothing wrong with asking users to do a bit of viral marketing :) .
    If there are no responses from any interested users on topic, the thread will die.
    Regards.
     
  10. PrevxHelp

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    While "in the cloud" is definitely the buzz word of late, it isn't much of anything new for Prevx. While the technique is definitely important, to the average user, they couldn't care less about how the detection/prevention/cleanup actually takes place - they just want to see an effective product.

    Word of mouth is definitely a powerful tool, but I think that having the right words to give to the people is the key: regardless of how Prevx accomplishes it, we still have this guarantee: http://www.prevx.com/freescan.asp#tt_guaranteed which adds a significant level of legitimacy which other vendors, even with "in-the-cloud protection", only provide with $50-90/hr support calls.

    Symantec/others talking about in-the-cloud security is helpful for us: Prevx was arguably the first company to start working in the cloud for antimalware security but most users discounted it at the start. Now that other companies are talking about it as well, Prevx gets to move into the picture effortlessly because we still provide the same level of compatibility/interoperability/detection/protection in a < 1 MB package that we have with the signature-based products.

    We honestly aren't worried about the other cloud products on a technical level as, although their marketing may sound great, they still have a few years to catch up to where Prevx is now, not to mention where we're going in v4 :)
     
  11. Killtek

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    This is what I love about you guys!! You're on your A game and you know it!! Keep up the good work PrevX!
     
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