Power Shadow

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Chuck57, Jan 15, 2007.

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  1. Franklin

    Franklin Registered Member

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    Hmnn,been using and beta testing Sandboxie since version 1.7 Released March 2005.

    Compliments PS fine by stopping any inet borne malware requiring a reboot to be rid of if only using PS.

    Never had a prob with upgrading - uninstalling.

    Current version is 2.86 Released on 20 April 2007.

    Have had a few probs with some of the betas but that's to be expected.

    Maybe those that do experience probs can come over to the Sandboxie forum with the author ready and willing to help.

    No need to register, you can post as a guest.

    Sandboxie Help Forum
     
  2. Peter2150

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    HI Meriadoc

    Why don't you start a separate thread and post your thoughts about it. Might be helpful to others.

    Pete
     
  3. ErikAlbert

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    Good idea, this thread is out of proportion and isn't practical anymore.
     
  4. EASTER.2010

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    After your recent disaster with Sandboxie destroying your documents folder (subs) and forcing a back-up recovery, looks like this thread might just after all become back "in proportion and very practical" again for you. :thumb:
     
  5. Meriadoc

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    Alright! Now i'm pumped up all over again. ;) Thanks Meriadoc for the link.

    Now this is really going to attract interest, especially mine.

     
  7. zopzop

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    guys i finally brokedown and trialed powershadow 2.6 on my laptop. after messing around with it for a few hours i decided it was stable enough to keep (i'm purchasing a license for my laptop).

    i then decided to try it on my desktop. that's when the horror started. the installation went smoothly but as soon as i tried to enable shadowmode the pc restarted! no wavey screen no nothing, it just restarted. so at the powershadow boot screen i decided to enter shadowmode again. this time bluescreen and the machine restarted again (without even booting into windows). this time when the bootscreen came back i decided to enter unshadowed windows. it booted into windows fine.

    i looked around to see what could be causing this, since i have virtually the same programs on my laptop as on my desktop. then i saw it. there was something called "recguard" running in the background. more info on recguard here :
    http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/recguard/

    so i went ahead and used msconfig to disable recguard from loading at startup and i rebooted my pc. pc boots into windows fine and i try to turn on powershadow. the wavey screen comes on but windows isn't in shadowmode.

    so i decide to see what can be causing this now. and i think i found it. theres something called "pc angel" guarding a hidden partition on my pc (full of gateway stuff). the thing is i'm almost sure this is causing the conflict with powershadow as i DON'T have either "recguard" or "pc angel" on my laptop. the problem is, how the hell do i uninstall "pc angel" from my desktop? for that matter how do i get rid of "recguard"? the option to remove them isn't in my control panel! stupid stupid gateway crap.
     
  8. Kees1958

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    Hi ZopZOp,

    I had something simular. I do not remember the names of companies or programs anymore. The guys who had delivered the PC has also installed a simular pogram. When I tried First Defense-ISR a got simular results. With safe boot I managed to get in the system again and found out about a hidden 7MB partition with all XP critical files in it. I tracked down the company and a friendly helpdesk gave me tips to uninstall. They were very surprised because their software was targetted at corperate users, not for home users. They gave me a program which removed the driver.

    With Partition Expert I unhide the partition, removed it and replaced my XP-partition.

    So I suggest you contact HP (obviously the owner of this) on how to remove the software which relates to the hidden partition (at first I just deleted the partition, but then XP became unstable).

    Regards K
     
  9. 19monty64

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    zopzop..... I have no ideas of the whyso_O but I did experience your same problems, so I had to... 1)re-boot and then enter reg.code, 2)disable booting into shadow-mode, and 3)exit ALL running programs. Since doing all 3 actions I've not had reboot-issue when engaging shadow-mode or any other errors. Screen goes "wavy", shadow-mode appears in desktop corners and the PS-notifier pops up. Do you also copy and paste (using notepad) user : PowerShadow and reg.code : VVR29E-R4WCK2-K4T111-V1YHTP-4JYJDD to register PS?
     
  10. Chuck57

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    Found this thread about PC Angel. Nothing about uninstalling anywhere that I've found though.

    http://www.futuremark.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2994

    There has to be a way to get rid of it, but even their website doesn't mention anything, although I haven't searched it completely. Apparently HP, Gateway, and Compaq use it at least for some things. They also claim that this PC Angel thing is installed on 65% of computers sold in the USA. Maybe it's good that I buy mine from a guy in the next town that builds them, and only installs XP and NOTHING else.

    http://www.pcangelsolutions.com/index.htm
     
  11. zopzop

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    @Kees1958

    i'm gonna contact gateway now and raise hell. how DARE they do this to me ;(


    @19monty64

    yes i copied pasted the username and reg code in both (the one on my desktop and laptop). the only one giving me the restart error is the one on my desktop with that stupid gateway crap on it. i know it HAS to be the gateway crap because sometimes when i use window washer by webroot, the pc does the hard reboot thing too!

    @Chuck57

    thanks for the links i found them too with google but like you said they don't tell you how to remove it. i'm gonna email gateway tech support and rip into them for putting me through this ;)
     
  12. Chuck57

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    I almost got a Dell this last time, when my old PC died. Glad I didn't now because I found a thread about PC Angel that said since Dell bought out emachines, PC Angel came with the deal. Between HP, Gateway and Dell that probably covers most of the computers sold in this country.

    I don't have a problem with any of them. They're all okay machines. What I don't like is buying a computer loaded down with junk, especially if they don't tell you everything that's on it - like an HP that I bought a few years back, about 2 computers ago, that had iambigbrother hiding on it. HP said they knew nothing about it; compusa said they knew nothing about how it got there. I haven't bought from compusa since, nor have I bought an HP since.
     
  13. Meriadoc

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    @ zopzop, you should not disable recguard unless you have or made a recovery dvd as the recovery partition has been know to become unusable.
     
  14. zopzop

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    @Meriadoc

    dear meriadoc, that's exactly what i'm trying to do! delete that partition and removed recguard! but i can't.
     
  15. Meriadoc

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    Ah, I hadn't read your other thread.
     
  16. EASTER.2010

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    Not new but i made an offer for a HP i couldn't refuse complete with DVD and all. I done a full reformat and reinstalled XP Professional and then the DVD player bit the dust. I finally had to resort to using PowerDVD to get it to work again. These computer vendors stash way too many dependencies in them and when you try to fine tune matters you always run the risk something else might stop working. It's a fine line but i walked myself thru it and now it's almost fully operational again minus a lot of HP add-ons the machine really didn't need that made the hard drive thrash with that grinding wheel sound effect. It's taken some Super-Defrag runs to smooth out the drives read/write accesses so it runs relatively quieter then before, but oh my, the piles of unneccessary items they stuff it with.
     
  17. steve161

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    My favorite HP experience was Lightscribe and Sonic CD labelers running on startup to check for updates. Would occasionally re-enable to check. Guess what, never an update. My HP XP media center had about 54 processes running out of the box, and I was able to safely get it down to 38, which included apps I added (such as powershadow and DSA).
     
  18. Chuck57

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    After my experience with HP and/or CompUSA, my wife and I have bought our last computers computers locally - generic brands built by a guy in the next town.

    Too much junk on the big commercial makes, and maybe some stuff you don't even know about since it isn't listed. To this day, after 5 years, I'd like to know how iambigbrother got installed on that HP I had and who put it there and why.

    The down side on my current one, which I should have known, is that the guy is a bit (a lot) airheaded. He builds good stuff but forgets things, like where the XP Pro disc went for the one I have now.

    On the plus side, which you can't really do with a major company, it ain't paid for yet. He said he'd pick up the check when he delivered the XP disc. That was almost 4 months ago.

    I wonder, if something happened that XP Pro crashed, if I could con MS into authorizing my old XP Home copy on this machine. Probably not.
     
  19. EASTER.2010

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    If it's been bad before just imagine whats being stuffed in them now on top of whatever the O/S is which now would be Vista (Oh My). After some lengthy experience with computers over time a well informed user finally reaches the conclusion that it's much better for them and their household to have a PC custom built if not build it yourself.

    I walked thru a (Radio-Shack like) Computer Outlet store recently and was amazed at all the different brands and layouts of motherboards/cases/hd's etc. and concluded i might be far better off investing in personalizing units myself instead of having to gut one of all those useless programs that come as add-ons not too mention drivers for this or that.

    More On Topic: :cool:

    Since just recently migrating FD-ISR into my system i cover the active snapshot with POWER SHADOW 2.6 and so assure that nothing gets out of hand when malware/bot hunting. Otherwise it's almost like just another tool for me since it's become routine and works without hassle.

    I still would like to see a new version though that will allow us to exit shadow-mode without a restart. It's been awhile since that feature was suggested as upcoming in a newer version.

    Anyone heard lately if their still expecting to do that with it?
     
  20. Meriadoc

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    Er, no - are they?

    I do know they are trying to 'simplify PS' what ever that is and will not continue shadow session after a reboot, so testing software that needs this is still outta the question.
     
  21. besafe

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    This may sound REALLY bad, but I don't buy any software products from China. So Power Shadow and EQSecure will not make it on my PC.
     
  22. Huupi

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    Yes looks different but same brains...or better !!
     
  23. farmerlee

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    Thats cool, you don't have to buy any software products from china as powershadow is free.
     
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    I like ironical message !!!
     
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