Power Shadow

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Chuck57, Jan 15, 2007.

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  1. ErikAlbert

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    I only tried BING/IFD/IFW, but I couldn't understand how it worked, so I never did a backup or restore with it. I ditched it and tried ATI.
    However according my readings IFD/IFW + FDISR is a very reliable combination.
    According Peter, ShadowProtect + FDISR is a very reliable combination too.

    RollbackRx is unbelievable, it doesn't seem to have an Image Backup software to recover all its snapshots, except Paragon (raw image), but I never tried RBRx myself.
     
  2. Peter2150

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    I've used Drive snapshot, IFD/IFW, ATI and ShadowProtect. The first two really don't copy the mbr, but that really isn't a problem. Acronis worked for me, but there were little things that didn't quite work right, and that left me feeling a bit funny. Shadow Protect has been flawless. As long as Power Shadow uses windows file system, unlike say Rollback, I see no reason why SP wouldn't carry that.

    Hey on a more on topic note, does Power Shadow play okay with Raid 0. I might give it a play and try an image, restore.

    Pete

    PS If you are interested in me trying this, is there a link for the Power Shadow Trial. This is a mighty long thread.
     
  3. EASTER.2010

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    Peter2150 lives by ShadowProtect and is quite high on that program. He's no doubt hammered away at it to squeeze out any potential issues and from his posts it seems to be the cream of the crop. StorageCraft is been up front and center with their sandbox proggys for the most part but ShadowSurfer kind of let me down. I'm almost of the mind to favor ShadowProtect next because if it works that well it's worth bringing onboard IMO.

    No RAID here so can't offer anything useful in that regard. I can attest to 100% success rate with my current config so far and it's held up quite well after company with some notoriously popular malwares and rootkits that i went after, including drive-by forced droppers.

    With the intentions to bring on FD-ISR i can see another beam on the horizon to take some confidence in.
     
  4. Meriadoc

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    Hi Pete, both of your questions will be answered here.
     

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  5. Peter2150

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    I tried Shadowsurfer and Shadowuser, and I didn't like them either. I think it's different set of folks who work on that vs ShadowProtect. With Shadowuser, I just threw up my hands. It was too confusing, and I thought to easy to lose stuff. On the other hand ShadowProtect I've tortured, and been amazed at what it can handle.

    Since PS doesn't support Raid I guess that leaves me out.
     
  6. EASTER.2010

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    Hello again Peter2150

    Thats comforting news to read. I never had any real luck with them either although i made use of ShadowSurfer with a workaround but why should that be when they have developers who could surely remedy most matters.
    SS always would stick in shadow-mode and the only way i discovered to release it was to uninstall it. Mind you, the SS program still was there even after uninstalling while shadowed but it did disable shadowmode. Go figure :blink:

    I was cautiously apprehensive when reading your satisfaction with ShadowProtect at first for that very reason but apparently as you indicated, they must have different programmers for various products, which is ok by me.
     
  7. ErikAlbert

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    I never used ShadowUser or ShadowSurfer either, but ShadowUser was for me the beginning of my rollback approach and separating my data from my system partition, which was mentioned in their user manual as a recommendation. Of course FDISR had more advantages for me than ShadowUser and that's why I never used them in practice.
     
  8. Chuck57

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    Okay, Easter, got to ask......LOL.... have you loaded the free for a year Eeye Digital Blink Personal Edition yet? Works nicely with Powershadow. I have PS running right now with it and not a problem here.
     
  9. farmerlee

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    I find it strange that it says it supports 2003 yet it doesn't run on 2003 standard from my tests. It installs fine but fails to run.
     
  10. Perman

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    Hi, folks: When I looked at PowerShadow's chinese web site, I noticed that PS will support win 2003 w/ its v.2.8 and 2.82. Does this imply something? just FYI. Good luck.
     
  11. Espresso

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    I ran v2.6 on 2003 Server for a few days until I installed v2.82 which has official support.
     
  12. farmerlee

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    From my testing i think there is an issue with the different versions of 2003. I couldn't get powershadow 2.6 to run on standard but i did get it to run on enterprise. 2.8 seems to run fine on both standard and enterprise although my attempts at an english translation have failed so far so i'm using 2.6 in the mean time.
     
  13. Meriadoc

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    Yes you need ver. 2.8.2 for 2003.
     
  14. Ptah

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    Hello Everyone I have been following this discussion for awhile now. Has anyone done a comparision between ShadowUser (Storagecraft) and Power Shadow? Is there anything like the exclusion list for ShadowUser?

    I am currently running shadowuser pro but I think there might be a software/hardware conflict because I keep getting chkdk on reboots.
     
  15. grnxnm

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    The repetative chkdsk is interesting. Are you keeping your machine in ShadowMode all the time? If so, then it's very likely that your machine had chkdsk errors before you entered ShadowMode. The purpose of ShadowMode is to throw away all changes to your disk on reboot (except for changes made to excluded directories) and so on each reboot, even if you had repaired things, ShadowUser would return your disk to its original state (the state with chkdsk errors). To test this, first disable ShadowMode, then reboot and perform a chkdsk /f to repair the drive (may require another reboot if it's C: ) and then after chkdsk succeeds with no errors, re-enter ShadowMode and then perform chkdsk as you normally do and see if the errors are gone.
     
  16. Ptah

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    I followed everything except going back into shadowmode (Storagecraft). I checked diskeeper to find out how bad the c:\ drive was it sayed moderate. Now a couple of days ago I ran diskeeper it was moderate, I stayed out of shadowmode until it was green meaning no fragmentation. Then proceeded to shadowmode and only came out to install quake 4 on sunday. So how did the drive become fragmented I wonder. Sorry for the longwinded explanation but if Shadowuser is not doing its job I will have to try Powershadow!
     
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  17. Peter2150

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    Do you have diskkeeper running in the background. Using programs like shadow user, power shadow, or FDISR, you would be much better off do only manual defrags.
     
  18. Ptah

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    No I have it disabled on the c:\ drive.
     
  19. Ptah

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    Peter I read alot of your post concerning shadow desktop protect and other programs. It is worth taking a look at powershadow or should I just stick with shadowuser?
     
  20. Peter2150

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    They serve to very different purposes. Power shadow allows you to very quickly undo anything you may have done. Shadow protect depending on your system will take a bit longer.

    I don't think layers are a bad idea. For safe surfing I wouldn't worry. If you get a bit on the risky side Powershadow might offer a quick way to undo stuff with Shadow Protect backing you up.

    Every now and then a friend will ask me to look at an attachment that might be good or might be.....

    Before I do, I will image my system with SP, refresh FDISR archives, and do it in Sandboxie. PowerShadow certainly could fit in that kind of scheme.

    I'd look at it but for the Raid issue.

    Pete
     
  21. Ptah

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    I have both Shadowprotect desktop and Shadowuser. It seems as though Powershadow is like Shadowuser without the exclusions list and commit function.
     
  22. Peter2150

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    IF ShadowUser is working for you, I would suspect Powershadow would be overkill. There may be a minor advantage in no reboot somewhere in the process.
     
  23. ErikAlbert

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    I thought ShadowUser worked with a virtual environment, while PowerShadow works in a real environment, just like FDISR.
     
  24. Perman

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    Hi, folks: You are not the only one to have this impression. I just wonder ShadowUser is a OEM of PowerShadow, or vice versa. o_O Both are breathtaking products, No doubt.
     
  25. Peter2150

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    IF, and that is a big if, then clearly Powershadow would be the OEM of ShadowUser. SU has been around for quite some time, while PS is a relatively new kid.
     
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