Power Shadow

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Chuck57, Jan 15, 2007.

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  1. Chuck57

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    I think I'm dropping back to the 2.6 version. I can't see any reason to keep 2.82 unless I can figure out a way to get a shortcut on my desktop.

    Still playing with that, and so far nothing. No doubt I'm missing something, since the few who have 2.82 haven't complained about it.
     
  2. poirot

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    Recently i went back to IE6 from IE7 in spite of my using Firefox all the time,and also from Adobe 8.0 to the latest updated 7.09, because of assorted,though trivial ,annoying problems.
    (those so worried about PS phoning home should try Adobe 8 )
    I never really thought of changing from 2.6 to 2.8,as the IT doctor once said ' dont try to fix what works well' (or similar), but,i am sorry you lost a bit of time, but you confirmed my initial idea.
    Regards, poirot
     
  3. Chuck57

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    I finally got the shortcut working. It was too simple. I put PS 2.82 in my desktop folder and just pasted the shadowsetting.exe to the desktop. Leave it to me to try all the complicated nonsense first.

    The basic program, maybe with a few insignificant changes, is the same. Those who have version 2.6, I see no reason to upgrade. As poirot said, "don't try to fix what works."
     
  4. EASTER.2010

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    Good enough. I thought as much. It can't be no easy task to make up a really good sandbox with all the built-in windows code structure and possiblities to circumvent some of those. But these type sandboxes are just what the doctor ordered, instead of selecting some of your apps this one places the entire partition into shadowing which there again saves time and effort from having to pick at so many settings like some sandboxes require us to do.

    I'm sticking with this unless a newer more feature full version surfaces where we might sandbox in and out freely without having to reset our machine at all. :cool:
     
  5. SafetyFirst

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    Thanks, Chuck57! It's working fine now!
     
  6. Espresso

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    o_O Right-click on the file, hold down mouse button and drag to the destination. Release mouse button and choose Create Shortcut from popup menu.
     
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    Desktop shortcut too easy.

    Navigate to C:\WINDOWS\system32\shadow right click "ShadowSetting" and select "Send to > Desktop (create shortcut)"
     
  8. Chuck57

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    Yeah, yeah, yeah, guys LOLOL, I know. You wouldn't believe some of the nonsense I tried before it finally hit me to drag and drop. I do have an excuse. I was trying to do it after only one cup of coffee rather than my six or eight cups. I don't function well without a high caffeine level.

    Anyway, thanks Espresso and Franklin. Some days, I just need to stick to my ancient Royal typewriter and stay away from this thing.
     
  9. Bio-Hazard

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    Hello!

    Just one question, i am using geswall (free) on my machine. Will PowerShadow conflict with Geswall?

    Reading this thread i really want to give PowerShadow a go. Thanks for the advice how to get it to work for free.
     
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    I used with GW, no conflicts.
     
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    Thanks Aigle......I am going to try PS tonight!!!
     
  12. Chuck57

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    No conflicts with Sandboxie or Bufferzone either. With geswall added to that list, that's at least 3 sandboxing/virtualization programs Powershadow works nicely with. I'm betting it'll run nicely with nearly all of them.
     
  13. EASTER.2010

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    I'm a glutton for software sandboxing/virtualization programs with more emphasis toward the former than the latter; so with that just mentioned guess i'll have another try with BufferZone. It's been a rotating door for me with those proggys though, just when i get excited they are finally stable they always seem to let me down, just tried sandboxie awhile back and although i really like it, it doesn't want to cooperate with my system as well as i would like, but, i have had some success with BufferZone in the past and the only thing that made me uninstall it was an occurance of a total frozen screen.
    If you're anything like me you absolutely detest any program that causes a lockup which means a lockout of your own system and forces you to manually reboot (Ugh!) :cool:
     
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    I'm running Bufferzone and Powershadow together at this moment, and have run the older version 1.90 with PS engaged, both without a bit of trouble and no slowdowns noted.

    I'm in shadow mode only because my wife was reading posts in the other thread about PS and Sandboxie and wanted to know about Powershadow, so I went into shadow mode. Mostly lately I use shadow for downloading and running the junk I download rather than surfing.

    Bufferzone does well on this computer. Sandboxie, which I had until a couple of days ago got locked in Sandbox mode and wouldn't shut down. That was v 2.64, and it's the second time it's happened. So, back to BZ, which always works.
     
  15. SafetyFirst

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    Ever since I have power Shadow installed on my PC, every time I start Windows I get "Please choose OS to start with" (or something like that), where I am asked to use up and down arrows to chose one of three systems offered:
    Windows XP
    Windows XP ? ? ? ? ? ? ? or
    Windows XP ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

    I had never seen this before I installed PS. Is this a normal XP feature or does this have something to do with PS?

    IMO, these question marks replace Chinese characters which are not supported by my version of Windows and I think that actual question may be to choose
    Windows XP (standard mode)
    Windows XP (single shadow mode) or
    Windows XP (full shadow mode).

    Are my assumptions right? Is it like this for all of you?

    Before PS, Windows always used to start automatically without asking me anything.
     
  16. Tommy

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    This is the startup dialog installed by Powershadow, and your assumptions regarding the sense of the startup menue are correct. You can disable this menue in the following way.

    - Start your PC in normal Windows XP mode
    - Start the PS Gui.
    - Go to 'Startup Menu' in the Gui and disable it.

    This way your PC allways starts in normal mode and you have to start PS manual via Gui.
     
  17. SafetyFirst

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    Thanks, Tommy!
     
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    The above is correct. In v 2.6 the instructions were in English which is the only reason I know which is what. I just hit start in XP since I don't see any point, now that the novelty has worn off, in running in shadow all day long, or just ignore it and it'll start in unshadowed anyway in a few seconds.
     
  19. EASTER.2010

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    I always ignore the added XP menu of Power Shadow and instead choose to select Shadow Mode from the programs GUI. Of course the choice is totally up the user. But man this Power Shadow ROCKS!!! and i make no bones about it, it's a super app. :thumb:
     
  20. Perman

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    Hi, folks: and PS aficionato: I have compiled the following info w/ a helpful assistance from another member: These info serve reminders and guidelines only, confirmations are been sought.
    (1) ShadowService.exe and ShadowTip.exe are NOT PS's main kernel processes. Rather, C:\WINDOWS\system32\driver\SnpShot.sys is. This driver does exist in both normal and shadow modes.
    (2)PS is supported only by Windows, not by DOS.
    (3)In Shadow mode, if SnpShot.sys is somehow removed from memory, then PS will fail miserably. This is its critical vulnerability, requiring an immediate attention.
    (4)PS does not rewrite MBR.
    Let me reiterate, these are for some serious consideration only. No harm has been intended. Have a nice one.
     
  21. vhick

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    maybe he choose "microsoft windows ...." in preboot screet.

    to be able to boot in powershadow again you must choose the second option in preboot screen.

    i try powershadow in fd-isr and it work very well.

    i think if i had to use powershadow or sandboxie.....
     
  22. vhick

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    sorry...

    maybe im sleepy now...

    my reply is reffer to post no. 120

    or delete my post..

    sorry again...
     
  23. yankinNcrankin

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    quoted by Perman (3)In Shadow mode, if SnpShot.sys is somehow removed from memory, then PS will fail miserably. This is its critical vulnerability, requiring an immediate attention.
    I know some other members here including myself have layered protection that protects memory & drivers from being modified of the security programs installed on their box.
    I'm not trying to be rude or cynical, but could you show some real life example of the SnpShot.sys driver being removed or modified from memory? The same can be said of most security programs that most definitely rely on such drivers to function, so then that would mean they are critically vulnerable as well right? I need to ask this of you because I have just recently ran over 100+ total live malware + RKs with this program and have never encountered that critical vulnerability you have mentioned. Once again I'm not trying to be cynical or sarcastic I just would like you to elaborate more on what you just said and hopefully show some real proof of critical vulnerability. Thanks in advance. :)
     
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  24. Chuck57

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    I think any software can be taken down. I wonder though, if powershadow is in shadow mode and SnpShot.sys is somehow removed from memory, wouldn't a reboot restore everything to the pre-shadow state? You have to get Through it to beat it.

    No doubt Perman has a point, but as far as I know nobody has broken through Powershadow to be able to get to anything and I've read a lot of stuff lately here and other places. It seems, so far, to be a very reliable, dependable, safe, and (I hesitate to say) unbreakable program to date.
     
  25. Perman

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    Hi, folks: Please please do not get so excited or panic just because of my posting. I recalled some users were asking whether PS has any weakness. Thererfore,I took the liberty to search w/ another member's help and come up w/ these reminders. I did not push any panic buttons, and do not use PS. It is strictly your own business to take any necessary steps(or none whatsoever) to protect your valuables. No insurance underwriters will be interesting in this venture. Again, I would say this is a critical issue, if any malware coders can bypass your layered defence and turn off this driver, you are cooked(well-done). Good luck.
     
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