I agree with Marti. I was quite confused when I tried updating and saw a flash and the message "waiting". Waiting for what? So I hit the update button again and this time after the flash, I saw "downloading" for a second or two and then it switched back to "waiting". Huh? Did it download the new definitions or what? (I figured we should be getting new definitions since there has been discussion on DSLR about a new one that other av have already included and I don't see in the 12/17 NOD def). Finally, I thought to go look in the logs where I was told it was up to date. The current version of NOD has a screen that pops up after you try to manually update, and there is no update available, that says "your definitions are up to date". The beta version needs this popup screen.