pheonix browser new name

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  1. solarpowered candle

    solarpowered candle Registered Member

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    The pheonix is now to be known as the" Firebird "

    http://www.mozillazine.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9133&start=0

    The email client for pheonix is to be known as "Thunderbird"
     
  2. root

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    You know what really P******s me off? For years, the only browser that would work half way decent was IE. NS had turned to crap and Opera was still trying to learn how to walk.
    Now, I have to make a choice between NS, Opera, Phoenix, Mozilla and maybe a couple of others that do not use the IE engine.
    Feast or famine, eh?
    Thanks for the update. :)
     
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    Phoenix is now known as "Firebird"?
    Cool!!
    I was wondering what the new name would be. ;)

    Thanks for the "heads up" solarpowered candle.
     
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    Me thinks that the next version 6 soon to be released will be a good one. still the odd hiccup with 5 . I still use mozilla 1.3 mostly though
     
  5. bellgamin

    bellgamin Very Frequent Poster

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    For those who mentioned Mozilla in their remarks...

    Mozilla browser is no more, as such. They have sliced what used to be Mozilla browser into modules. The full set of modules is now titled "Mozilla Suite."

    Within Mozilla Suite, Firebird is THE browser module, Thunderbird is THE mail/news module, and so forth.

    Ergo, Mozilla bloat is no more. You simply use those modules that you desire, without the baggage of unused stuff.

    Since Mozilla browser is no longer a separate entity, the staff that's working on Firebird [previously Phoenix] is larger. Hopefully, that means that development will speed up.

    Firebird/Phoenix has been my default browser since 12/28/02. I do NOT use "nightlies," but stick with those versions designated as "stable."

    aloha.......bellgamin
     
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    Bellgamin.

    I have been following the Phoenix Discussions "forum" lately.

    The staff there were looking for feedback regarding the best nightly to recommend untill 0.6 is released.
    I decided to try the 3/20 nightly.It was the most popular recommendation.

    I have it set as my default browser also. ;)

    I like this nightly.
    The only minor bug is regarding Preference Toolbar.
    It installs but requires a work-around to customise the toolbar.
    But I had that bug in 0.5 also.

    I'm looking forward to this re-organization and the modules idea sounds interesting.
     
  7. solarpowered candle

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    Yea I am finding that the speed for me is no diff than the mozilla1.3. But i understand that there is a few months yet till they are maybe sorted with the 0.6. I like the email thunderbird . I downloaded the latest build last nite . Its pretty heavy duty (as much as the complete mozilla suite ) , but as its got a long ways to go yet i think that the two modules thunderbird and firebird , once they are trimmed down and fine tuned will be the best :)
     
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    I set my user.js file to read as shown below. Doing so gave my Firebird browser a perceptible increase in speed.

    Notice that I disabled pipelining, but left the enabling text in [as // comment lines] so that I can re-establish it if I ever change my mind. Lots of folks feel that pipelining gives a speed increase. I tried it but it felt slower to me. I'll try it again some day... when I learn more about what it is & does.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    Here's my user.js

    // This one makes a huge difference. Last value in milliseconds (default is 250)
    user_pref("nglayout.initialpaint.delay", 0);

    // turn on timer-based reflow management
    user_pref("content.notify.ontimer", true);

    // sets the allowed time between reflows in microseconds
    user_pref("content.notify.interval", 100);

    // set the number of reflows to do before waiting for the rest of the
    // page to arrive
    user_pref("content.notify.backoffcount", 200);

    // KILL <BLINK> TAGS - 01.29.03
    user_pref("browser.blink_allowed", false);

    // DISABLE _BLANK POP-UP WINDOWS - 01.29.03
    user_pref("browser.block.target_new_window", true);

    // NO REUSE OF ACTIVE WINDOWS - 01.29.03
    user_pref("advanced.system.supportDDEExec", false);

    // DISABLE pipelining:
    user_pref("network.http.pipelining", false);
    user_pref("network.http.proxy.pipelining", false);
    user_pref("network.http.pipelining.maxrequests", 100);

    // Enable pipelining:
    // user_pref("network.http.pipelining", true);
    // user_pref("network.http.proxy.pipelining", true);
    // user_pref("network.http.pipelining.maxrequests", 100);
     
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    I installed the 4/25 build of Firebird.

    It's not completely bug-free, but it seems stable and the speed is good.I used about:config and enabled pipelining and made one modification.

    The label on top now says "Mozilla Firebird".

    I think that 0.6 is very close to being released. :)
     
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    Wow, never heard of that trick before. I tried it -- awesome list, but intimidating [I cannot walk & chew gum at the same time].

    My user.js settings were harvested from remarks made by gurus in various Mozilla forum threads. I have no idea why they speed me up. I just know that they do.

    For those who might not know, they now have a *user's version* of Firebird. That is, it comes fully decked out with an installer & an array of the most popular extensions, etc. It's called...
    the Black Diamond.

    Sexy name, wot? :rolleyes:
     
  11. Mike_Healan

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    I'm pretty sad about it actually. I tried Pheonix once and didn't like it. Mozilla minus damned near every feature I use constantly. I use my browser, constantly, and if Firebird is as bare as that old version of Pheonix was, I guess I'll be moving back to Opera.

    I'll wait and see I guess.
     
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    Mike- As I understand the Mozilla group's intent, you will still have every capability available as you had with Mozilla. It's just that each of the capabilities [browser, email, news reader, etc] will be a separate "module."

    Some folks, like me, want a no-frills browser. Most others, want a *full-package*.

    Mozilla's modular approach seeks to satisfy both groups. Or so I have been told.

    aloha.....bell
     
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