PC Tools Firewall Plus - v4

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  1. Zeena

    Zeena Registered Member

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    Hi Everyone! :)

    Just like always when I install something New.... I'm In A Muddle! :oops:

    Today I have uninstalled v3 and installed v4

    Note!
    When I installed v4 - I installed it for as a Normal User ... Not Expert User

    I found the installation for PC Tools Firewall Plus v4 a little confusing :doubt:

    1*
    Even though I had uninstalled v3 first...
    On Installation... v4 told me there was already a file in C:\Programs for - PC Tools Firewall Plus.
    It asked me - " Do you want to install the new one anyway? "
    I panicked and clicked - OK
    Does this mean there is now likely to be 2 PC Tools Firewall Plus folders in my C:\Programs?
    One for v3
    &
    One for v4
    OR
    would the folder for v4 have replaced the one for v3 ?
    Too scared to look! :ouch:

    2*
    The installation asked me did I want to install PC Tools Adapter Drivers ... Well something like that anyway :doubt:
    Again...
    I Panicked and Clicked - OK!

    But the thing that's got me most puzzled...

    3*
    When the computer had first Restarted after installation...
    I had a Pop Up asking me.... " Do You wish to Turn On - Quiet Mode? " ... " Allow or Block "
    This Time...
    Trying Not to Panic ... I Clicked - Block

    * However...
    When I tried to sign into AOL I had to click - Allow approximately 8 times :argh:
    So I panicked again!
    Opened PC Tools Firewall Plus and set it to - Quiet Mode

    Did I do the right thing?

    I have a little boy ... So I really can't have a Firewall with a million Allow or Block Pop ups a day.

    The amount of pop ups in v3 was just about right for me and my son to cope with.

    But to be honest... I've had No pop ups since!
    So I don't know what to think :doubt:

    After having another look at the settings....

    I'm guessing that Quiet Mode is actually a setting within Enable Enhanced Security Verification

    And I'm guessing Enable Enhanced Security Verification
    Is what used to be Enable Protection Against Code Injection in v3

    But Enable Protection Against Code Injection used to be OFF by Default
    And I don't think it had Normal or Quiet Mode :doubt:

    So should I even have Enable Enhanced Security Verification tuned on in the first place?

    Because I had originally clicked - Block ... When v4 asked me did I want Quiet Mode
    And then I changed my mind!
    Opened PC Tools Firewall ... Settings ... Filtering ... And set it to Quiet Mode myself!
    I am now just a bit unsure as to what my settings should be :doubt:

    When I went into - Settings ... Filtering
    And changed Enable Enhanced Security Verification from ... Normal Mode - To - Quiet Mode.
    I Did Click - Apply
    But was I also supposed to Click - Refresh ?

    Enable Enhanced Security Verification is still turned - ON
    But I have now got it on Quiet Mode .... Rather then Normal Mode

    Note!
    I still have my PC Tools Firewall set as - Normal User

    Can Someone please tell me if the following settings are correct...

    Enable Firewall - ON

    Application Filtering - ON

    Enable Enhanced Security Verification - ON
    Normal Mode - OFF
    Quite Mode - ON

    Packet Filtering Enabled - ON

    Enable Stealth Mode - OFF

    Enable Stateful Packet Inspection - OFF


    Also...
    I have noticed that when I first turn on my computer... There is a massive Spike of my Core 2 Quad CPU
    100% :eek:

    And...
    Things like IE7 are taking slightly longer to open and close :(

    Could this be to do with one of my Firewall settings?
    Maybe.... Enable Enhanced Security Verification ?

    There have been people reporting problems with Enable Enhanced Security Verification
    But as I am one of those people that usually leaves settings I don't completely understand at there - Default
    I'm a bit worried about just going ahead and turning it OFF

    If Enable Enhanced Security Verification really is the same as...
    Enable Protection Against Code Injection in v3
    Then shouldn't it still be OFF by Default?

    Or Is The New Thing for v4 ....
    Enable Enhanced Security Verification
    ON by Default - But also set to Quiet Mode by Default too?


    I'm so sorry this post is so long!
    I've found it really hard to explain what I'm trying to say :oops:
     
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  2. speedtouch

    speedtouch Registered Member

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    Zeena don't worry about it. v4 will have installed over v3. Your settings are Ok except it's better to have stealth mode and stateful packet inspection switched on. This will hide your computer better on the web. If you want very few pop-ups switch off Enable Enhanced Security Verification, however this will disable HIPS protection so if you don't have another HIPS program then leave it on. You would still be warned if a program tried to connect to the internet if you had it switched off. Once it's "learnt" your set-up it will not give you lots of warnings.
     
  3. Zeena

    Zeena Registered Member

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    Hi Speedtouch :)

    Re : Enable Enhanced Security Verification

    I'm Not getting loads of Pop ups since I set it to Quiet Mode.

    But I think it's having a negative affect on my computer :(

    e.g.
    Opening and closing a some programs takes a few seconds instead of instant.
    And...
    When I first turn on the computer... All 4 Cores of my CPU hit 100% :argh:
     
  4. pandlouk

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    Hi Zeena,

    I would advise you to reinstall version 3.0.1.14 for the moment. If your quad hits 100% means that something is very wrong with the latest version. Give them some time to short the major bugs out of it; after 1-2 updates you can try again the v.4. ;)

    If you do not have the older version you can download it from here. http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/106611&vid=514152&mode=info


    Panagiotis

    edit: I just checked and version tracker redirects to the official pctools page. Anyway I uploaded the latest v3 on rapidshare just in case.
    PC Tools Firewall Plus v.3.0.1.14

    MD5 Hash = 5277E6DA94A099AB725B87A5F6F8FC44
    SHA-1 Hash= A849C01EF4D041FE6F52DDBB8ED6365EC1467D21
     
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  5. Zeena

    Zeena Registered Member

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    Hi Speedtouch & Pandlouk :)

    The CPU problem is all to do with - Enable Enhanced Security Verification


    I've had to switch it OFF :(
    When my little lad tried to play his online game ... My CPU was constantly at 100%
    At one point... I thought the computer was going to Blow Up :argh:

    With Enable Enhanced Security Verification switched OFF .... CPU activity is perfectly normal again.

    Just upset that I've had to turn a default setting OFF :(
    I'll probably try turning Stealth Mode and Stateful Packet Inspection ON tomorrow.

    It's so hard to get the time to do anything / test anything - When you have just the one computer... And have to share it with your child :rolleyes:

    I've got some other worries about the amount of Applications v4 has automatically added to its list... And Given - Full Access
    Not sure if this is a new thing! :doubt:
    Or was v3 not working right ... And v4 is?
    I don't know!
    But I'll be back when I've got more time to explain.
    God help me when the school holidays start :D


    Thanks! :thumb:
     
  6. Zeena

    Zeena Registered Member

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    Hi Everyone! :)

    Well I have turned ON - Stealth Mode and Stateful Packet Inspection
    And All Is Well!​
    :D

    Note!
    I Noticed...
    When I turned Stealth Mode and Stateful Packet Inspection - ON
    Enable Enhanced Security Verification ... Reset itself to Normal Mode - Rather than Quiet Mode.
    Enable Enhanced Security Verification ... Is Still Turned - OFF
    With Normal Mode selected ... But - Greyed Out!

    My One Remaining Worry...

    The List Of Applications!
    When I had v3 .... Applications were only added to the firewalls list - Once I had used that Application for the first time.
    e.g.
    I would start up a program and be asked to - Allow or Block
    Most Applications would then be given access for - Connecting ... But Not - Listening.
    Only a very few Applications were automatically added to the firewalls list of Applications ... And Given - Full Access
    But With - v4 :argh:
    PC Tools Firewall Plus ... Has itself! - Automatically listed a whole load of the applications on my computer.
    The Problem Is...
    It's given almost all of them - Full Access :eek:
    Things Like...
    Java
    Microsoft Office
    Windows Explorer
    Control Panel ... I didn't even know this one needed Internet access
    Windows Calender
    Rundll32 ... I find this one extremely concerning! :doubt:

    To be fair!
    I think PC Tools Firewall Plus has added to list of Known Applications for v4

    But do you think they may have gone a bit - Over The Top?

    Please understand...
    This is the first Firewall I've ever had to learn / Do anything with.
    I've always had Norton before.
    No Pop ups ... Nothing!
    It just got on with the job.
    So I really don't know what is - Normal .... And what is - NOT! :doubt:


    Any Advice Welcome Please! ;)
     
  7. Zeena

    Zeena Registered Member

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    Hi Everyone! :)


    Re : Applications
    All Sorted!
    Apparently it's normal with PC Tools Firewall Plus v4 ...
    For Most... Microsoft - Security - And Other Important Applications ... To be automatically granted - Full Access

    Re : Enhanced Security Verification
    There is obviously a Serious Problem with this part of PC Tools Firewall Plus v4 :(
    People are reporting everything from...
    Like Me... High CPU Usage!
    Computer / Firewall / Programs - Freezing!
    At worst - Not being able to install at all - Big Problems!

    However...
    With Enhanced Security Verification turned - OFF
    Touch Wood!
    PC Tools Firewall Plus v4 ... Seems to be working just fine for Me :D

    :thumb:
    Thanks!​
     
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