PC Tools Firewall 6 beats Comodo at Matousec

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  1. pegr

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Glad you found it useful.

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  2. simisg

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    this title thread must rename to pctools firewall beets all other firewalls
    but comodo its famous free security thats why i think the title is like that....
    but comodo its a strong complete security for free! the first one so respect this company
     
  3. Wildest

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    I see.

    When CIS was on top, Comodo went to great lengths to promote this fact, and it was ok to shower Comodo with praise and adulation and demonise the commercial software vendor because "their only priority is profit".

    Now that they are clearly slipping further and further down the ladder, we should "encourage other companies who placed lower to do better by making constructive suggestions with respect to our security needs and consequently be better protected against malware."

    Nice.
     
  4. CogitoTesting

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Look my goal isn't to bash a product against another one. My goal is to actually fight malware by helping security products improve. Saying Comodo this Comodo that, Eset this Eset that or Avira this or Avira that will not help fighting mawalre a bit. There are people who can only bash and criticize, their goal is to bring down, NOT to construct. When one does put such a fact into perspective it's pretty sad, really.
     
  5. clocks

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Yeah. 97% is a huge drop. They are really falling to pieces. lol o_O
     
  6. Wildest

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    A ha.
    So "slipping further and further" is equivalent to "huge drop"... :rolleyes:

    Got it. ;)
     
  7. Keyboard_Commando

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Title of this post is provocative. Don't get tricked into the troll. hah.

    Although the OP didn't add LOL at the end of the title, you can hear it!
     
  8. SammyJack

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    I cant read the OP's mind,and have no idea what his intension was.

    I cant seem to find the older tests,but i am pretty sure the last one was
    1.Online Armour.
    2.Comodo
    3.PC Tools.

    PC Tools and Comodo simply switched places.
    First place did not change.
    Maybe the right way to title the thread would be "Online Armor Retains First
    Place"
    Perhaps even better would be : "Latest Matousec Test Results Are Out."
    In any event,they all beat my horse,Kerio 2.1.5.

    I always thought the majority of folks put these test into a proper perspective.
    If something as inane as thread titles cause cries of "Foul!!",I am not sure.
     
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  9. Fajo

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Its bad when we have nothing better to then debate a test that comes from somewhere like Matousec.

    But meh we are all board I guess. ;)


    WTB a test that does not scream GET IT NOW!~. :rolleyes: Or god forbid Test an actual firewall ;)
     
  10. SammyJack

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    Yes,but I like to see how my favorite "firewall", Threatfire,is coming along.
     
  11. Fajo

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Who knows about the "Firewall" but if you want to know about HIP's then be my guest. :blink:
     
  12. cqpreson

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Don't care about that test.It belongs to HIPS instead of Firewall:cautious: .
     
  13. zip

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    I guess I'm the only one that has noticed Matousec only updated PC Tools Firewall in it's ratings.

    The newest version of OA is v3.5.0.32.
     
  14. simisg

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    everything is updated.... and there is no better than 99 % only 100 %
    all the recommended suites from matousec are very strong there is no malware bypassed and if exists you must hard work to find it.....
     
  15. Fajo

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Nope. Some versions of the software are not even close to the release versions available say today. So unless he did this test like 2 months ago then waited push the results.

    They are simply not updated. :rolleyes:

    SHHHHH. You pay extra to have your newest version tested. :cautious:
     
  16. Kees1958

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Memory, is that still an issue? CPU cycle peak time and disk I/O are much more relevant to crispiness of your system.

    Still Comodo scores well on total CPU time and disk I/O, allthough on one of our older XP machines it noticeably slows down opening a folder with thumbnails/lots of icons in it.

    To compare PCTools FW performance with Comodo, you should go to Comodo'd FW and make sure all protocols are analysed (selecting two options somewhere in FW intrusion tab). PCTools is known to be buggy with P2P, but overall a bit faster than Comodo on pure FW aspect. So I am wondering have any of you running V6 with a P2P program? In V5 you could PCT working with P2P programs like LimeWire when you edditted the rules manually before starting LimeWire for the first time.
     
  17. clocks

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Yes it is for me. Regardless of how much I have, I dont want it wasted on security apps. I would rather it be free for games, and other applications. Why allow sloppy programming just because my PC has more ram than it did years ago?
     
  18. aegreen

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    I'm not trying to bash Comodo far from it. I just thought it was interesting how far PC Tools has come and Comodo tends to be used as a bench mark alongside Online Armor perhaps.

    Comodo has it's strengths but also its weakness like many other programs. Classical hips is too technical for the average user and they get highly confused by popups.I know because I installed one on my mothers machine but it didn't last long ;) I'm currently using Geswall free and like it's quietness combined with power so I'm not a PC Tools evangelist.
     
  19. Kees1958

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Simple with more RAM you do not need to program (modules) in overlays which enhances transparency, reduces the need of the programmer for smart logic (always understood by the guy who wrote it, but a pain in the ass for others to adapt or maintain), simple sequence, iteration and choice case, should be the only logic forms used. In general using only a subset of a program language command set, tends to enhance quality.

    Making a program work (assuming you use C++ or C #) with less memory, increases memory paging/swopping and disk access and complexibility.

    Also because the CPU is only faced with a limited set of commands and all the code is in memory, makes it easier for the command pipe line interpretor of a CPU to predict program branches, ergo enhancing the effectiveness of the CPU cache memory (1st, 2nd, 3rd level caches), so the effective CPU performance is also likely to be higher (than with overlays).

    So the increased availability of RAM has led to (in general)
    a) better quality
    b) higher maintainability
    c) less paging / less memory swapping
    d) less physical disk I/O (programmers option to use memory tables in stead of stored data tables, plus direct effect of less virtual memory swapping)
    e) higher effectiveness (executing commands per time unit) of your CPU predictve command queiing/pipe line and effectiveness of 1st, 2nd, 3rd level cache (when the correct/predicted commands are in the cache to execute, no need to take a break and fetch the correct program commands from RAM memory)

    When this does not convince you, I rest my Kees :D

    Cheers

    Kees (is pronounced as CASE in Dutch, not KEYS like all my UK collegues allways made of it)
     
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  20. tipstir

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Are we all ready for software hardware that can use logic to determine what to allow and what to block, thus no need for pop-ups that prompt you to allow or block.

    No need to for user knowledge to say should I or would I anymore.

    Being a programmer myself and a few other talents I can say whatever you code and direct will do what you program it to do. But can it think on it's own? That's where a lot of these software firewall go south.

    PC Tools is a complex firewall and Comodo IS is really something else but it can go north and mess-up the system. Well this laptop was going in that direction. I can't see myself going back to PC Tools firewall.
     
  21. acr1965

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    So is this PC Tools firewall with Threatfire also installed or no?
     
  22. deanmartin

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    No Threatfire, but it does have the google toolbar option offer.
     
  23. dave88

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Are you sure? I don't believe my install of v6 had options for either Threatfire, or Google toolbar.
     
  24. cqpreson

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    Re: PC Tools Firewall 6 beets Comodo at Matousec

    Thinking on its own.It is so difficult to firewall.So many softwares released everyday,they are different and unexpectable.

    Pctools with its default rule is so strong.If configuring rules,it is just a little bit difficult.But in general,we needn't modify the default rule.
     
  25. deanmartin

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    I think it was PCTools firewall 6 that had the google toolbar option install /dont install, But it may have been my Auslogics defrag update. Cant remember only had PCTools firewall for a two day test ride.
     
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