Panopticlick

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  1. david banner

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    Panopticlick says "only one in 1,953,281 browsers have the same fingerprint as yours." Is this a very bad situation and what do i do. What use is my fingerprint to therm if i am not doing anything wrong
     
  2. mirimir

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    Do you have many add-ons installed?
     
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    addons.jpg

    Here is a screenshot. Is that a lot?

    Also it said i am unique in 1,953,281 browsers. But there are two billion computers in the world
     
  4. mirimir

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    Yes, that's probably it.

    If you disable Javascript (or install NoScript and don't allow Panopticlick) you'll be far less unique.
     
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    NoScript has to be bypassed to allow the majority of sites to work, so the uniqueness will be less than expected. Random Agent Spoofer extension will be far more effective at keeping them guessing.
    The more powerfull version than on Mozzies site is available from: https://github.com/dillbyrne/random-agent-spoofer

    I want to be unique, while giving away nothing. The site only got two fields of info and they are spoofed:
    Within our dataset of several million visitors, only one in 22,288 browsers have the same fingerprint as yours.
    What the site says is meaningless. It basically says 1 in 22,288 visitors are either using odd old hardware and outdated OS, or spoof/remove header info in exactly the same way as me... I seriously doubt it.

    EDIT: Sorry OP. To answer your question, it's about identity and tracking. It can be used against you. For example, a windows drive-by download won't happen if you appear as Linux.
    You'll be tracked at some time or other, so give nothing away of any value to them. AKA, spoof.
     
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  6. mirimir

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    If it's important to be anonymous aka part of a large crowd then just use Tor browser.

    Otherwise, just compartmentalize across multiple VMs, each using its own VPN exit. That way, it doesn't matter that the browser in any one VM is unique. Browsers in different VMs will be more or less as different as other browsers. To differentiate, use Debian with Iceweasel for one VM, Debian with Firefox for another, Mint with Firefox for a third, and so on. Use different combinations of add-ons. And so on.
     
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    Yes, but only few thousand will visit that site. So next time you visit it, they will be pretty sure it's you again.
     
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    @Minimalist I do not mean paopticlick but the web in general when I say there are two billion computers in the world. If only a few thousand visit panopticlick their 'conclusions' do not mean much
     
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    Yes, but same can be said for any website. There are not many websites that gets visited by all 2 billion computers. If browser fingerprinting is done by 3rd party (ad network), it can identify you across different websites also.
     
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    More powerful in a sense that the github version is the latest and has more features, better UI etc, unlike the one in mozilla's add-on page.
     
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    @Nanobot:
    no, no, it says amo version's somewhat limited compared to github version on its github page but it doesn't say in what way. that's what i was referring to.
     
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    Yes, that's it.
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/random-agent-spoofer/
     
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    There are some things in the page I listed, such as canvas, vendor spoofing, spoof screen and window sizes. Github only.
     
  18. mirimir

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    Sure. But Mirimir, he doesn't care about that :) My other personas are not likely linked, except when I give away hints. Sometimes that's for expediency. Sometimes it's part of some implied story. And many of them live short but interesting lives ;)
     
  19. Minimalist

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    Hehe. Which persona is living life here at Wilders? :)
     
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    Only Mirimir :)
     
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    I think being seen as unique by a website is not a problem if your "unique identity" is changing every time you browse the site: This way, although being each time "unique" , the site can't track you (ie associate your former visits to your present visit). It' why I like very much an extension like User Agent Spoofer (GitHub version). You can complete this addon with:

    Canvas Blocker (I prefer use it than the UAS canvas blocking feature because Canvas Blocker can spoof canvas).

    Disable speculative preconnections (thase are not disabled with current version of UAS).

    Google Privacy

    Self Destructing cookies (it doesn't work in provate browsing mode)

    Smart Referer (Best use: mode:"direct hit" and uncheck "strict")

    uBlock + uMatrix

    Of course you can add Noscript to the combo.
     
  22. imdb

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    "disable speculative pre-connections" and "smart referer" are redundant add-ons, because you can achieve the same results via about:config. also they bring no convenience to user, unlike canvas blocker or uas.
     
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    I really like this extension. With MadMacs2.0 it'll be confusing for most to discern my os, browser & computer name.