Panda USB Vaccine or Bitdefender USB Immunizer

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  1. TheKid7

    TheKid7 Registered Member

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    Panda USB Vaccine or Bitdefender USB Immunizer:

    In the near future, I will need to vaccinate around twenty (20) USB Flash Drives for use at work.

    Would you select Panda USB Vaccine or Bitdefender USB Immunizer to do the job of immunizing a USB Flash Drive?

    When Bitdefender USB Immunizer was first released, I read that the vaccination autorun.inf file could be easily deleted when Panda USB Vaccine's autorun.inf file can only be deleted with a format. Is this still true or has Bitdefender fixed this?

    Thanks in Advance.
     
  2. ams963

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    I have used Panda USB Vaccine and it's very good and reliable. I would go for Panda.;)
     
  3. Aventador

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    I have all 4 of my USB sticks immunized with BD. The autorun is hidden so it cannot be easily deleted. The only way I can remove it is be reformating the drive. Cannot delete what you cannot see.
     
  4. ComputerSaysNo

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    Bitdefender. Simple reason it's been updated.
     
  5. pbust

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    AFAIK the BD technique can very easily be bypassed.

    The safest method for USB vaccination is still an NTFS format with Panda vaccine.
     
  6. treehouse786

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    i agree :thumb:
     
  7. TheKid7

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    Is Panda USB Vaccine still shown as "experimental" with an NTFS formatted USB Flash Drive?

    What is the latest version of Panda USB Vaccine and from where can the latest version be downloaded?

    Panda USB Vaccine Licensing: Is Panda USB Vaccine considered to be OK for use with Business computers?

    How safe is Panda's USB Vaccination of a FAT32 formatted USB Flash Drive?

    Thank you.
     
  8. Aventador

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    pBust your opinion is biased and as the others have said your immunizer has not been updated in over a year. BD's is solid and updated.
     
  9. cruelsister

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    I came across a worthwhile video on YouTube regarding Panda. Although rather technical in nature, it does nicely demonstrate how Panda stamps out malware once detected.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrtFwmunj3U
     
  10. kupo

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    What? Why do you need to constantly update an immunizer? It's not like it's using sigs to put a hidden file. It's not like autorun is always changing. ~Comment removed~
     
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  11. Aventador

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    Wow. I am so glad you resulted to insults to make a point. Don't hurt the few brain cells you have. Panda immunizer is still beta and seems like its not in development. BitDefenders keeps up on things and improves where needed.

    FYI.... Respond maturely next time.
     
  12. pbust

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    With the exception of the harsh words @skudo12 is correct in his conclusion.

    We have not updated Panda USB Vaccine in a long time because it works very good. Maybe DB has to update its vaccine because it is easily bypassed.

    I don't have the time to do this again (I did it already some months ago), but I'm sure you can easily bypass BD yourself with a 2 or 3 liner cmd batch file to unhide and delete the BD "vaccine" (if it can be called that). Then try to do the same thing with Panda and you will see if won't work.

    PS: we don't sell nor make any money out of Panda USB Vaccine. We thought it would help the community by giving it away for free, so the comment about being biased is really not correct. If you want the most secure solution, use Panda. If you want a lesser protection, use BD. Whichever you use I don't really care, I'm just giving you the facts.
     
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    I agree and I love Panda.;):thumb:
     
  14. quanzi_1507

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    Are the major of computers at your work using Windows 7?

    For anyone that who thinks that the newly-updated Bitdefenfer USB Immunizer offers a more secure anti-autorun mechanism than Panda, you might think again. Just tampered a bit with file ownership for my NTFS-formatted 4GB Transcend and voila, the autorun.inf created by Bitdender is gone :cautious:

    With Panda USB Vaccine you can't even see the file even after unhiding protected system files (super hidden), the only way to know there is something there called autorun.inf is to use a tool like WinHex, but I have no idea how to remove the file created by Panda USB Vaccine except by formatting the drive.

    The Panda guys just don't update it anymore simply because it works (beautifully).
     
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  15. Aventador

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    Butdefender Immunizer is free. PBust stop bloating you own companies program. Makes you seem like another Ldnguyy99 and I would hope your better then that.
     
  16. 3x0gR13N

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    Have you actually tried what pbust said about bypassing BD, or are you fanboy fueled? :)
    P.S dieselman, is that you?
     
  17. Technical

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    Sure it's a little off topic, but after testing other immunizers, I've found MCShield a good USB heuristic scanner. Can run side by side with other antivirus without conflict. Freeware.

    -http://amf.mycity.rs/mcshield/
     
  18. quanzi_1507

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    - Yes, but I think it's quite safe to use with a NTFS-formatted drive (used it on mine. Just that the bigger your drive is, the longer it will take to create the "vaccine".
    - Latest version is v.1.0.1.4, you can download it from here:
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    http://acs.pandasoftware.com/marketing/promo/USBVaccine.zip
    - Not sure about this but I think it is OK for business use, you might want confirm this with pbust.
    - You mean safe as "it won't do any harm to my drive" or as "it will keep my drive safe from autorun exploit"? If it's the first case then you should know that Panda won't allow you to unvaccinate the drive (but who wants to do that anyway). If it's the second case your drive is safe from autorun exploit once it's vaccinated.
     
  19. pbust

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    Yes it is free for businesses as well.
     
  20. Aventador

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    Both are nice apps. But Bitdefender does not need to be installed. Its a portable app. I carry around the apps on all my USB stick if someone needs a copy. Everything can be by-passed. As long as your disabling autorun on your USB stick your pretty much well covered.
     
  21. TheKid7

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    I remember something about Panda USB Vaccine being "experimental" with the NTFS file system. Is Panda USB Vaccine no longer considered to be "experimental" with the NTFS file system?

    Then to have the most "secure" USB Vaccination are you recommending to change from FAT32 to NTFS?
     
  22. pbust

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    Yes its no longer "experimental" and it is final.

    And yes to have the most secure vaccination we recommend NTFS format with Panda vaccine.
     
  23. TheKid7

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    I 'think' that I read somewhere that the only negatives for using NTFS over FAT32 are something like:

    1. More "writes" with NTFS (More USB Flash Drive "wear")
    2. NTFS is not as compatible with different OS's as FAT32.

    Since the USB Flash Drives will probably not be used that much, the extra "wear" should not be an issue.

    Are there any other negatives for using NTFS instead of FAT32? Any comments on how much more "wear" there is with NTFS?
     
  24. HAN

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    FAT32 does not store any security or ownership properties. So, for me, using FAT32 makes it simpler to transfer and use files without any warnings or questions to answer from the OS.

    I use my usb drives a bunch. If I were to use NTFS usb drives, I would need to deal with security/ownership issues a lot.

    (See my example of the Panda USB Vaccine download to an NTFS based PC.)
     

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