Panda Cloud Antivirus - Version 1.0 Final Released

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  1. pbust

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    Regarding TruPrevent, it might not be exactly the same thing but we are thinking about integrating behavioural analysis into PCA.

    Actually PCA scans all files. The issue with "executables only" applies only to the on-access scan against the cloud. However PCA still scans and is able to detect macro viruses, polymorphics, etc.

    PCA does support x64 by the way, altough only under Vista and Windows 7 (not XP).

    Regarding the Internet connectivity issue, we'll look into it. I thought it was fixed already from Beta3.
     
  2. Brocke

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    when do you expect beta testing for 1.1 to happen Pbust?
     
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    Definitely not until next year.
     
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    Just Vote Pbust, Thank you.
     
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    in the poll, What is meant by ' Web/Email filtering'?
     
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    Intercepting & scanning the HTTP/SMTP/POP3 streams rather than waiting for the files to be saved to the drive.

    In my personal opinion this is not really necessary. It adds unnecessary hooks and problems while not providing additional security (as the technologies used to scan at the different vectors is the same in pretty much all AVs). Only at the filesystem & execution level can you add more technology which improves detection.
     
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    Id like to see you take your time and get auto updates,web filtering and behav. all included. but that just me. would make a great 1.1 :thumb:

    thats just personal opinion
     
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    Yes we will definitely add more than just 1 new feature. We just want to get a feel for the priorities :)
     
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    yup agree, what are you think of 'paid' services?
     
  11. nzpossum

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    If a file is blocked because it is suspicious does it get unblocked automatically if it turns out not to be malicious and if so how long does it take? I had a file blocked about 3 days ago and it still says it is being investigated at the lab.

    On a different note here is a favourable review

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2355844,00.asp
     
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  12. Brocke

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    Great job!!!! You won the Editor Choice Award :thumb:
     
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    Removed three Off-Topic posts. Let's keep the discussion focused only on Panda. Please stay on topic. Thanks!

    JR
     
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    What surprises me is that AntiVirus always are detached from the usage context, for instance whether the user has UAC on or off, runs in LUA yes or no, has a dodgy internet surfing profile.

    An option to halt installs for instance unsigned executables when in porn mode (it is problably better to call it inprivate or incognito or I-am-innocent mode) is also something which crosses my mind when taking the usage context into functionality scope.

    Also an explanation of the different Panda scan's would be nice. What surprises me that those scans are not marketed in relation to threat level of executable code (now Pbust is pleading wilders folks "please give the scan engine some time, it will be faster when it has checked all the execs in a backgorund scan") and user context. This will increase performance of Panda and increase risk awareness.

    I think the behavioral analysis should be directed to rootkits (hiding stuff in admin zone) and unwanted programs (changing stuff in the user space), it should mark programs and installs and provide the user an option to un-install when the PC is disconnected from the Panda servers for more than 4 days, also this smart uninstall feature can be used by Panda healing/recovery when it turns out to be a real nasty. This smart Revo-Regrun like uninstall would also tackle all arguments against the in the cloud solution, just a marketing tip for free.

    Be creative and you will appeal to bigger customer groups.
     
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    Nice idea! Very creative. It'll be awesome to see something like this in Panda. :thumb:
     
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    Haha, thanks but I was a lousy systems programmer an average application programmer, a reasonable systems analist, a good GUI/workflow designer. Now problably one of the few e-commerce/sales/marketing guys with a geek's past.
     
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    TBH, I'm not particularly impressed by this product. The interface and simplicity is good, and free is always nice, but the detections seem to be a few notches below other free products (AVG, avast!, MSE) for now.

    Where can one send undetected samples?
     
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    It's running fine on several XP machines at work; light as a feather.

    But gives high CPU usage (between 20-50%) continually on a couple of Vista laptops at home. Had to uninstall.
     
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    @Blackcat
    Did you disable Windows Defender on those Vista boxes or was it still active?
     
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    Disabled :(
     
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    @Blackcat
    Ok, I asked because when a colleague out beta 3 on Windows 7 the performance was somewhat sluggy until she disabled Windows Defender. On my Windows XP VM it indeed runs light as a feather. Maybe more people are experiencing the same problem as Blackcat with Windows Vista/7?
     
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    I 've a question, since all this cloud concept is something i don't know well.

    Are the scanned files being sent to the cloud servers or is some information retrieved locally that is being sent?
     
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    @Fuzzfas
    I assume (from earlier experience with such clouds) that it sends hashes of your files to the cloud.
     
  24. pbust

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    @nzpossum, wow, thanks for the link :thumb: Editor's Choice is a good recognition!

    @Kees1958, very interesting ideas indeed. We have actually been playing around with a few technologies to achieve something similar to what you are proposing. Still too early to say, but we're keeping an eye out for this type of approach ;)

    @Eice, for undetected samples: virus@pandasecurity.com.
    For sample collection submissions: virussamples@pandasecurity.com.
    For URL submissions: urlsamples@pandasecurity.com.
    For FP submissions: falsepositives@pandasecurity.com.

    @Blackcat, did this happen right after install (the 20-50% CPU consumption)? Keep in mind Panda Cloud Antivirus scans in the background processes and objects loaded in memory right after install and this can take a few minutes. If you're running a Quick Scan or loading programs at the same time this can prolong a few more mins.

    @Fuzzfas, when scanning a file from the cloud the file is NOT sent to the cloud, at least with Panda Cloud Antivirus. There are some cases where a file is detected as suspicious, is very new and we don't have the file (and you have the checkbox of automatic management of suspicious files active) that it might send a file to be checked against the cloud, but this is very rare.
     
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    No. On both machines I installed, carried out a scan and then rebooted. I then rebooted several times but still saw this high CPU usage. Altogether PCAV was on the machines for about an hour before I uninstalled. And no other security software installed.
     
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